when I was a lot younger and practiced yoga the chakra beneath the balls of the feet was numbered 0.the earth grouding center. And the 8th chakra resided above the 7th, and is the first of the spiritual chakras,(energy center of divine love,and activates spiritual skills contained in the 7th chakra).Some teachers try to fold over the the upper half of the spiritual body on to the lower so thy can access it. Not a good idea, so where is the elusive 8th chakra to be found? above the head or in the ground. you tell me. Douglas, Reiki Master UK.

It is a numbering game and it all depends on who is doing the numbering.

The numbering we are using is stated in the basic QT book in the advanced section.

Dear Alain,thank you for replying to my question so soon, however I find your answer poor and not worthy of you. However I own the the book and on page 107 it says Richard got the information for chakras 8 through 12 from Lazaris. I have read some of his stuff and was not impressed. Without spending the next decade talking about chakras I ask you to go to the following website and read articals 3 & 5 which I think will prove my point. www.wisdomsdoor.com Regards, Douglas UK.

The articles are interesting and very detailed, thanks for pointing them out. Yet, are they not written down? Did someone not decide that these are the "right" interpretations of the chakras?

From my perspective this is all still a point of view. That is all that anything really is; interpretations presented and then tested by those that read it and in general somewhat by real world experience.

Even the first 7 chakras have a number of interpretations and the placements differ some, depending on the book you read. Then there are those that say all of this is changing because of the "time or age" we are living in.

I don't mean that I agree with the articles, nor do I mean I disagree, I simply am saying that the chakras 8-12 as expressed in the SC book were based on the first QT book and the explanations given there. So it becomes an expression of what you choose to believe and what affect this belief has on you. Does it work? Does it have meaning for you?

Ah judgments and expectations.

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From my perspective this is all still a point of view. That is all that anything really is; interpretations presented and then tested by those that read it and in general somewhat by real world experience.

And perception/perspective is in the "eye" of the beholder; at least that's what helps me stay true to what I observe. I rarely second-guess myself now when working with the chakras. If I feel it, I ask to see it. When I ask to see it, I just know it's there. Kinda the same way with my kitchen table.

Great point, Alain...and a good discussion.

When I first began doing energy / chakra work, we were taught to sense the chakras by feeling the energy. I find the placement varies somewhat on some individuals. It would make sense that more chakras (and thus more numbers) might come about from someone more sensitive to feeling the suble nuances of the smaller (palms, feet and so on). There are many, many chakras throught the physical body as well as the etheric body. Different modalities provide different instruction/opinion/discovery. It's all the same thing. The important thing is to trust the energy, what you are sensing and feeling - and if you are gifted with 'sight', seeing!

I'd like to add that I find comments such as "poor and unworthy" unhelpful to stimulating intellectual discourse.

You go, guy! I totally agree! And I prefer your direct approach.

Thanks to everyone who replied to my Chakra question, I wonder Trane if you found Alains post stimulating or interllectual,and I also wonder if you could have botherd to write a few more lines what your post would have contained.

But hey the sun is shining and I am off on holiday for a month,every one using energy systems takes from it what they need, and should not expect everyone to beleve their system is the best,when it does not work for you anymore you move on. Unless you follow the Buddhist path then everthing is an illusion anyway. Love & Light, Douglas UK.

OK fellow QT'ers. Let's send Douglas love and light for his healing, relaxation and enjoyment while on his holiday. Perhaps a holiday is just what he needs!

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I wonder Trane if you found Alains post stimulating or interllectual

I found his answer concise and to the point. For me, it left nothing lacking. If I had, I would have simply asked for further clarification.

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I also wonder if you could have botherd to write a few more lines what your post would have contained.

Alas, the moment has passed and we'll just never know.

the one not to be goaded,

<<<<<<<<<<<<Sending to Douglas>>>>>>>>>>>>>

To cheer you up and add to the confusion I have some information; It is from Tom Kenyon"s book "The Hathor Materials", Great book by the way.

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ALAIN WROTE:
It is a numbering game and it all depends on who is doing the numbering.
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Well here are some numbers for you.
According to The Hathors - Intergallactic beings, we have 2300 chakra's in our head alone . How about that
Love, Light and Laughter
Pinky

2300! Sure, that makes me giddy!