Hi,

When I breath (try to do the 6-6) after a while I get a lot of tingling around my mouth and then the muscles around my mouth start to contract to each other. If I continue to just breath slowly the whole of my face starts to tingling. I read that maybe it could be a hyperventilation?
Every time I use another kind of breathing, faster in and longer out, after a while the same thing hapens...
Can anwyone help me, please?

Love

Pieter

Pieter, what you are describing sounds exactly like classic hyperventilation syndrome. Suggestion: Do a simple 4/4 breathing technique, and don't breathe so deeply. Just natural breathing with a nice easy rythym for most of the time, and use the other deeper/longer breaths intermittently to raise the sensations in your hands. Quantum Touch breathing should not be "work" -- but rather an easy, natural process, but one that we give our attention to. Back off a bit on the breathing and still keep your awareness on it, and link the breathing with sensations in the hands. Very quickly it becomes second nature. Let us know how it's going.

Dear Ali,

Thanks to share that information. I will try it and let you know. But by doing the 4/4 breathing, will I have less energy transport to my hands, or has this nothing to do with how deep and how long (ex. 6/6) I breath in and out?

Pieter

Hi, Pieter -

Just for the record, the "6-6" breath is not a Q-T breath! There is a 2-6 breath.

Re: Hyperventilation - A major cause of hyperventilation is chest-breathing. Make sure your abdomen is expanding on your in-breath and contracting on your out-breath. A normal breath is supposed to involve this abdominal movement, but many of us don't breathe correctly in our everyday life.

Also, make sure your in-breath is as complete as your out-breath. This is PARTICULARLY easy to overlook on the 2-6 and 1-4 breaths, but even when doing the 4-4 breath this could be a factor if you're not paying attention. This is another frequent contributor to hyper-ventilation. A section of a newsletter piece I wrote on this a little while ago: "... as Scott Kwiatkowski, D.O.,. explains, what
actually happens is that not enough oxygen is coming in relative to the amount of carbon dioxide going out, creating an abnormal blood chemistry which can cause hyperventilation sensations. One reason this happens is
that the exhale is more forceful and thorough than the inhale."

I'd love to hear if these points help.

Also, re: your last question - again, there is no 6-6 breath in QT - so the 4-4 should be fine! You do move more energy with the 2-6 & 1-4, but I use 4-4 all the time because it's so comfortable, and I move PLENTY of energy! It's more important, as Ali says, to be comfortable so you're not burning yourself out. Richard and a friend of his invented the 4-4 breath and felt it was especially powerful because the sweeping is more thorough on the in-breath. Why don't you try using the 2-6 or 1-4 as very brief "boosters" for now - as you get more used to the breathing, if they still appeal to you for use as your primary style of breathing, it will be easier for you to take them in stride once you're used to the 4-4. (And again, the 4-4 is extremely powerful.)

Even if you're using a breath as a brief booster, though, be sure to use abdominal breathing to avoid hyperventilation.

I don't know how it's working for Pieter, but it's sure working for me!!! Thanks Ali

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Originally posted by HealerAli:
Pieter, what you are describing sounds exactly like classic hyperventilation syndrome. Suggestion: Do a simple 4/4 breathing technique, and don't breathe so deeply. Just natural breathing with a nice easy rythym for most of the time, and use the other deeper/longer breaths intermittently to raise the sensations in your hands. Quantum Touch breathing should not be "work" -- but rather an easy, natural process, but one that we give our attention to. Back off a bit on the breathing and still keep your awareness on it, and link the breathing with sensations in the hands. Very quickly it becomes second nature. Let us know how it's going.

Dear Ali, Joycelin and others

I've tried to do the abdominal breathing, but after a while there were a lot of tensions into my stomacht... Even when I relaxed the tensions after a while came up.
I found it even difficult to concentrate on the sweeping and abdominal breathing at the same time...
Is it normal to have a those tensions after a while of abdominal breathing?

Light and energy

Pieter

It still sounds to me that you're working too hard on the breathing. Allow nice easy equal breaths for a time, with equal inhalations and exhalations. Breathing is natural and normally doesn't cause fatigue, so that is telling me that you're just working too darn hard.

Try a 4-4 pattern and if you feel the need to raise vibration somewhere along the way, use 2 or 3 breaths of a different pattern, such as 1/4 or 2/6, and then go back into nice easy relaxed even breaths.

With every exhalation, as you sweep to your hands, also relax abdominal muscles at the same time. Exhale, relax, exhale, go loose, exhale, release!

I hope this helps...a thought: If you have tension in abdominal muscles, are you also having tension in your hands? Exhale--->Loose hands--->Loose muscles!

Dear Ali,

Thanks for this one!!! It sounds so easy the way you tell it to me

When I concentrate on my breathing, it's hard for me to concentrate on the sweeping thing...
And vice versa... Maybe I should start with just breathing and then do the sweeping thing after a while...
But when I combine both, I swith almost immediately from abdominal breathing to a more thorax breathing (becaus when I do the sweeping and I go up in my thoughts, my breathing go with me and so goes my thorax... if you understand me...)

I will keep in touch and all information about this and advice are welcome!

Love and light to everyone on the QT-site!!!

Pieter

Hi, Pieter - I like Ali's advice.

I think your difficulties go beyond having a little trouble with coordinating your Q-T breathing rhythm with sweeping. You sound too much like me!

Sometimes, we live with severe habitual tensions in our breathing that we don't ever notice (since it just seems "normal" to us) until we have to be conscious of our breathing.

The second chakra in the abdominal area is a major "feeling" center. When at some level we have unpleasant feelings we don't want to feel, we may unconsciously keep the area tense to avoid having to feel those feelings. (I still find myself having to relax my belly every once in a while.)

For many years, I breathed very shallowly, even though I knew I needed to breathe much more fully. I would constantly find myself pretty much holding my breath. I would immediately relax it and fully inhale and exhale, but after a minute or two, it would just feel sooooo hard, suuuuch an effort, ssooo exhausting! I would think, "How do people DO this?!" I'd immediately go back to my extremely shallow breathing, without even noticing for another long while. Then I'd try again, with a similar result.

I was constantly having my ribs go into spasm and go out of place. I finally ran into a chiropractor who, instead of "adjusting" me, gave me a mini-course in Feldenkrais breathing. Afterwards, instead of my ribs going out every couple of months, they went out very mildly only once or twice during the next year. Then one day, they spasmed up worse than ever before - it was unbelievably painful - and then abruptly, after about 10 minutes, they completely released, and I have never had my ribs go out since.

There is a great book in English called "Healing Through Awareness" which has easy to follow Feldenkrais exercises for various activities (sitting, walking, etc.). There is an EXCELLENT, very clear and easy to follow one for breathing. I highly suggest you find this book and do that exercise.

(BTW, in case you aren't familiar with Feldenkrais, it's a very effective system of movement awareness developed by Moshe Feldenkrais.)

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Are there some details about this book "Healing through Awareness" Jocelyn - I can't find reference to it on Amazon. Sounds most interesting.

OOPS! Sorry. This is the correct title: "Awareness Heals: the Feldenkrais Method for Dynamic Health," by Steven Shafarman. Thanks for the note, jace, so hopefully everyone else can avoid driving themselves crazy trying to find a non-existent book!

Dear Jocelyn and others,

Thanks for the advice and the methods! I've tried it and yes I have to say, bit by bit I am beginning to breath more naturl (with my stomach) and do the sweeping!!

Thanks for this!

Love Pieter

Hi,

Today I've done a QT session of 45 minutes and without hyperventilation-symptomes!! GREAT!!!

I was very relaxed and didn't care for the "outcome"...
Also my natural breathing seems to improve day by day!!

Thanks love and light to all QT people and to all the people who need QT and love!!! Sending...

Love

Pieter

Hi,

I get less and less hyperventilation symptons, especially when I am laying in bed before I go to sleep, I feel a lot of energy flowing.

Now that the hyperventialtion symptoms went away, there is something new that bother me a bit. I have to yawn very often when I do the breathing and sweeping... any comment, help, please?

Many thanks in advance, I am open to learn

Pieter

Congratulations on the nice yawning! You are relaxing, finding the pleasure and fun and mostly, the EASE of doing this!

I don't see the yawning as a problem at all, rather I think it is a good sign, my friend!