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Some time ago I mentioned that I sometimes sweep entities other than myself, especially if I am sending energy to myself. For example, I might sweep a tree and then direct the energy into my body. Now, some further points arise from that idea.

1) Why not put one or more unaans into the swept entity? For example, I usually put one unaan into the tree's root system, then another one around the trunk, and finally a third one around the tree's crown as I sweep up from roots to crown during the inhale. Or, when I want to send Chi to a particular spot in my wife's body, I will sweep some other woman, putting an unaan into the same spot in that woman's body during the inhale, and then put another unaan into my wife's body at the target spot during the exhale. I am guessing that the "source" unaan will absorb energy of the healthy entity and pass it to the vortex, which then delivers it to the target unaan. At least, that is what I visualize.

2) Altho many QTers disagree with me, I still strongly suspect that Chi flow is amplitude-modulated by the resonant frequencies of whatever material that it passes through. That is why I am careful about who or what I vortex while sending energy, and I don't sweep myself if I am not feeling well.

3) How about multiple unaans? I found that I could visualize three unaans spaced out along my spine, and then even five of them simultaneously.

4) Pyramid instead of unaan figure? I have used golden pyramids both as the "source" during inhale and as the target in the client's body during exhale. A few times I tried the standard sweep-vortex-unaan method for five minutes and then changed over to the pyramid source-target version for five minutes. When I asked the clients if they felt any difference, they usually reported a smoother, softer energy during the second time period.

5) There is one detail that I am unsure of in regard to sweeping something other than myself. Should I send the energy directly from the source to the target, without passing thru me at all; or should I send the energy up from the source, down through my head, neck, arms, and hands, and then into the client?
 
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Hi, Jim -

Experimentation is great, and some of the things you're doing sound interesting. And a basic Supercharging technique is to place a single u-nan in the person you're working with. Also, in Alain's book, he mentions that some practitioners find it useful to place multiple u-nan's in the person they're working with - and he also mentions that it's great to experiment with all this.

But it seems to me that your idea of needing a healthy person to put the u-nan in, and then having a sense of energy being transferred from it to a u-nan in an ill person, misses the point of the u-nan: the u-nan IS an inherent pattern of health that we activate by being conscious of it - a u-nan in a healthy person in not more whole than a u-nan in an unhealthy person - the u-nan does not take its pattern from the person/entity/object it's activated in; it activates a pattern of wholeness. A u-nan IS wholeness and healing - it is not affected by its environment, it affects its environment.

Re: the general idea of passing energy through something other than yourself. When you don't pass it through yourself, I feel you are no longer doing even a variation of QT. This is not necessarily bad - it may be a great way of healing - but it is not QT - so I think it is up to you to decide whether it works well for you to work that way. (IMHO)

As far as passing someone else's energy through your feet through the top of your head and out your hands - I don't quite get the point. How could focusing and running the energy of a healthy human being's personal energy through yourself be more powerful than focusing and running the Universal Lifeforce through yourself? Again, there's nothing wrong with doing it that way - I just think it misses the point and results in a second-best healing. (I do think using a source like a tree is an interesting variation, since it's a powerful expression of nature, though not sure it would be stronger than just running Universal Lifeforce directly.)

It strikes me that you lack confidence in the inherent wholeness of each of us, even in the face of illness, and that you lack confidence in the healing power of the Universal Lifeforce. I think QT is so simple that it's easy to underestimate the vast power of simple Basic QT.

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Hi Jocelyn,
Thanks for your comments.
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As far as passing someone else's energy through your feet through the top of your head and out your hands - I don't quite get the point.
Not like that, exactly. If I decide to vortex a tree and give the energy to a client, should I send it directly from the tree to the client, without passing thru me, or should I pass it from the tree, thru my head-to-hands connection (not thru any lower part of my body), and then into the client? The point is, is it necessary to pass the energy out of a practitioner's hands in order for the energy flow to be directed to the client? Or, could the practitioner simply imagine a flow of energy from point A to point B directly, and it would go like that?
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I do think that using a source like a tree is an interesting variation, ... though not sure if would be stronger than just running Universal Lifeforce directly.
How can I run Universal Lifeforce directly without sweeping anything? Hmmm, interesting question.
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It strikes me that you lack confidence ... in the healing power of the Universal Lifeforce.
Nah, just suffering from an incessantly inventive mind - I can't control it.

Now, I reckon that it would be useful to have a Research and Development department of QT that would evaluate ideas for new variations and combinations of techniques. I would be interested in reading the reports that an R&D department would produce, because at least then I could avoid wasting time playing with ideas that had already been shown not to work! In fact, altho not wanting to challenge any of the existing QT material, I might observe that the Supercharging and Core Transformation material was not professed by Bob Rasumssen (the originator of the basic QT technique). So, how was that additional material developed and decided to be included in the syllabus? Perhaps we are still in the "Model-T-Ford" era of energy healing, and further developments might produce astounding improvements - bringing us to a "Rocket to the Moon" era.
 
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Hi, Jim.

In my belief system, it's only okay to take energy from a tree when you also give energy to the tree. It is a life form, just as yourself, and so to simply take its life-force energy is not something that I feel comfortable with.

Now, if you're going to do QT, you need to sweep and breathe; therefore, you'd be drawing to you the energy from the tree in through the soles of your feet and proceeding with the usual QT pattern. If you don't sweep and breathe when doing Basic or Supercharging, you're not strictly doing Quantum-Touch.

Can you envision energy going straight from the tree to the client? Sure. You might, however, want to make sure it's a-okay with the tree first. And, again, you're not quite doing QT here in any case. I would certainly encourage you to stick with universal life-force energy, if for no other reason than you're never going to risk depleting the universe of its energy. The same cannot be said for the tree, regardless of how unlikely it may be.

How can you run universal life-force energy without sweeping? Easy: Reiki. You can simply act as a conduit without sweeping or breathing at all, but, again, you won't be doing QT.

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Thanks, Trane. That clears up everything except for one detail.
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In my belief system, it's only okay to take energy from a tree when you also give energy to the tree.

Perhaps the energy that is picked up by vortexing the tree is not taken from the tree, any more than the energy that a practitioner sends to a client is taken out of the practitioner's body. I have never felt any opposition from the trees when I vortex them - quite the contrary, I feel a sense of appreciation, or even enthusiasm, sometimes.

You said that it is not necessary to sweep and breathe in order to direct a flow of energy, and so I then wonder what is the purpose of doing that in QT? Well, maybe to amplitude-modulate the energy, exactly. Or maybe the cells of any living organism can sense the flow of energy that is passing over/thru them and add to it by rejoicing, without decreasing their own energy level in any way. Do you have any info or ideas about this question?
 
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The key to growth is experimentation and one of the ways that new things are created is again experimentation.

Generally speaking when I come up with a new idea, first I try it on myself. Then I try it with friends asking for feedback. Then, if there is consistency, I try showing it to specific individuals that have expressed interest to me in the past to try out new ideas. On an average it takes about 6 months of concerted effort before I feel I have something solid and worthwhile.

I think playing with the ideas, as you are Jim, and seeing what occurs is the first step. Then presenting the ideas, as you are, is the next step.

What kind of consistency is produced from your experimentation? How easily are the techniques able to be duplicated? Do they add something new or are they a comparatively minor variation that is more a personal preference?

To address your questions.

1. The reason one doesn't generally have more than one U-NAN in the receiver of the energy is it is generally more effective to have one focal point at a time in order to focus the energy more effectively. From there it goes where it needs to. When talking about drawing energy through an exterior source and placing a number of U-NANs at specific spots for this, I think it is an interesting idea but I haven't found the energy stronger when I personally try it.

2.Running energy through something that has a high vibration does make a difference to the flow, however in my experience one's point of view is a major contributor to deciding what is a "higher vibrations material or source". So again it becomes a personal experience rather than a universal one. That is again only from my experience.

3. Multiple U-NAN's has been discussed and used and they work fine for some and are a distraction to others. So that means really a personal preference.

4. Different focal points to run energy into or through are fine and they produce a flow and a specific vibration. How do you relate to pyramids verses the U-NAN pattern? Pyramids have very neat energy they tend to focus through the capstone. The u-nan pattern is "a basic building block of structure". That is why it is used and it is opened/stimulated or activated by the 12-color meditation's colors.

5. Which gives a better result. In other words we would have to experiment to give a good answer. This is what I am aware of. When I sweep energy through my body it focuses the energy well. It is the lens that creates a more primary focus and I have a comparatively large experience with it verses say drawing energy through something else.

As far as an R&D department goes, neat idea. I do know that to be a practitioner one needs to provide 5 insights into the work. I know that the office does read these ideas and when they come across good ones, or perhaps I should say "unique" ones, they tell others about them.

Sometimes these are in the newsletter. Sometimes they make there way into one of the updates to the different QT books when permission for use in given in both cases. So in a way there is R&D going on. Note also that in this forum you and others have come up with ideas and they are being acted on as well.

So, I would say keep experimenting and playing and see where it takes you. When you come up with something that seems really cool, share it if you are inclined and let's see what happens.

Thanks for being so excited about the work that you are playing with it so much already! Smiler


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Hi.

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Perhaps the energy that is picked up by vortexing the tree is not taken from the tree, any more than the energy that a practitioner sends to a client is taken out of the practitioner's body.


Energy follows thought, so the source of the energy is where you set your intention. If you set the intention that the tree will be the source, so shall it be. If you set the intention that the energy will be routed via the tree, so shall it be. In QT, the reason why the energy is not taken from the practitioner's body is because we very clearly and deliberately set the intention of using universal life-force energy rather than the practitioner's. There are modalities, such as QiGong, where it is possible that the practitioner's own essence is used (whether deliberately or by accident).

I agree about the 'enthusiasm' from the trees. When I work with them, though, it is from the perspective of energetic exchange a la QiGong. Have fun with them, as your sense of their enthusiasm and acceptance is probably quite on the money.

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You said that it is not necessary to sweep and breathe in order to direct a flow of energy, and so I then wonder what is the purpose of doing that in QT?


As we learn in the basic workshop, sweeping and breathing is done to a) ensure the practitioner does not use his/her own life-force essence and b) raise the level of vibration significantly so that the client has a higher level of potential to which to entrain. These two aspects literally define Quantum-Touch. In the simplest possible terms, QT is sweeping and breathing.

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I just want to say thanks for the informative replies. I will have to buy the Supercharging book; I have the DVD set.
 
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Hi I've just joined and I also have a question re using the Unaan. When doing the reverse-age
meditation I always tone Unaan on every inhale.I do a lot of sound healing and have a problem with toning unaan repeatedly to myself while also trying to tone a note and sweep and breathe. How often do we need to intone unaan to keep it all going?
Thanks Sandie
 
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Ideally with each breath. Realize this is sub-vocal, that is not out loud. If you are in a zone and forget for a short time it doesn't seem to matter as the "state" that it has put you in sort of supersedes the usual rules.

Also whether you tone on the inhale or exhale or half and half doesn't matter either.

If you are doing healing using the U-NAN pattern, and you want to tone for a bit it is fine to stop saying U-NAN to yourself for a little while. Otherwise simply start the focus again when you are ready.

In the Case of the longevity technique it is what it is. No secondary toning is required. However, both in healing work and the longevity technique, you could combine the U-NAN word and the verbal toning to achieve your goal. That is say u-nan as part of the tone. The word doesn't have to be perfect diction in order to be effective. Wink


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Whenever I use toning (usually sub vocal) I prefer to do it on the out breath. I experimented with various mantras but now I am more inclined to use the u-nan.


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