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Never mind the camera of the physical universe. Do what Ashley says and "talk" to them rather one at a time.
Can you find my post on "RESCUE" that tells exactly how I successfully did it?
With love,
If not, I will em it to you.
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Hi Christina,
I'm fine, sorta....

The discarnate is NOT an orb, nor will it ever be an orb.
I have found that orbs are humans, just a bit confused or unwilling to leave home.

I have found discarnates are not human, but some kind of unpleasant THING. This one killed the lady in the picture. She ate like a horse, yet still lost all weight and died.

Most of the Haunts (for lack of better terminology- I was never a hunter like Ashley was/is) simply want recognition and conversation. When my knees were not shaking, I could and do still speak to the occasional lurking person. Not having a definite way to address them, I always treated them with respect and courtesy.

There was only one that didn't respond to me in any manner, the one pictured.

Because I seem to be able to converse with them, as I would an animal, what I was doing, casually, on the side, came tothe attention of Scott Rogo, Raymond Bayless, David St.Clair and Dr. Thelma Moss and her lab in UCLA.

They tested me in many manners, most of which I didn't understand, but they did. So, after the testings, they would take me with them on some off-the-wall midnight sojourn. They had equipment galore, cameras, sensors of all kinds, and got pictures of the orbs, large and small,inspecting the equipment. They were fascinating. Some had been in place so many years they didn't want to "go to the light" nor anything else. When that was suggested to them, they would leave so fast you couldn't get it on camera.

There is a small Toys-r-Us store in Los Angeles that our group visited. Nothing showed up on the cameras or other stuff. I was taught NOTHING, as the group wanted to catch the interaction between myself and anything. I have held some fascinating conversations under stairs, in cellars, on roofs.

The odd thing about the entire episode: they had information to give about crimes committed in OUR time, not theirs. The police would ask Dr. Moss to put the group in an area that was a bit spooky (to me, anyway) and send me out like a ghost-sensing dog, as the persons I talked to did not always turn up on the cameras.

So when the police began to use Dr. Moss's group on a regular basis, she decided enough was enough and refused to use us in that manner.
Personally, I was grateful.
I became accustomed to speaking and seeing them, but never became entirely comfortable with them. Also, at some times, I would shoot my mouth off at one of them, and all would leave the rude conversationalist. Deservedly.

It is very interesting, but I never had much courage, so am sure I missed a lot of it.

I still can't use a camera, as a blue bolt will go through any shot I try to take.

Not wanting to be involved in the group, since I really didn't know what I was doing, we left Los Angeles, only to come to an area (Colorado) that is far spookier. Figgers!LOL

Thats my only take on ghosts.

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Hi Christina,
I'm fine, sorta....

The discarnate is NOT an orb, nor will it ever be an orb.
I have found that orbs are humans, just a bit confused or unwilling to leave home.

I have found discarnates are not human, but some kind of unpleasant THING. This one killed the lady in the picture. She ate like a horse, yet still lost all weight and died.

Most of the Haunts (for lack of better terminology- I was never a hunter like Ashley was/is) simply want recognition and conversation. When my knees were not shaking, I could and do still speak to the occasional lurking person. Not having a definite way to address them, I always treated them with respect and courtesy.

There was only one that didn't respond to me in any manner, the one pictured.

Because I seem to be able to converse with them, as I would an animal, what I was doing, casually, on the side, came tothe attention of Scott Rogo, Raymond Bayless, David St.Clair and Dr. Thelma Moss and her lab in UCLA.

They tested me in many manners, most of which I didn't understand, but they did. So, after the testings, they would take me with them on some off-the-wall midnight sojourn. They had equipment galore, cameras, sensors of all kinds, and got pictures of the orbs, large and small,inspecting the equipment. They were fascinating. Some had been in place so many years they didn't want to "go to the light" nor anything else. When that was suggested to them, they would leave so fast you couldn't get it on camera.

There is a small Toys-r-Us store in Los Angeles that our group visited. Nothing showed up on the cameras or other stuff though I was sitting there, talking to the old man that was in front of my knocking knees.
I was taught NOTHING, as the group wanted to catch the interaction between myself and anything. I have held some fascinating conversations under stairs, in cellars, on roofs.

The odd thing about the entire time of working with them; the orbs(?) had information to give about crimes committed in OUR time, not theirs. The police would ask Dr. Moss to put the group in an area that was a bit spooky (to me, anyway) and send me out like a ghost-sensing dog, as the persons I talked to did not always turn up on the cameras.

So when the police began to use Dr. Moss's group on a regular basis, she decided enough was enough and refused to use us in that manner.
Personally, I was grateful.
I became accustomed to speaking and seeing them, but never became entirely comfortable with them. Also, at some times, I would shoot my mouth off at one of them, and all would leave the rude conversationalist. Deservedly.

It is very interesting, but I never had much courage, so am sure I missed a lot of it.

I still can't use a camera, as a blue bolt will go through any shot I try to take.

Not wanting to be involved in the group, since I really didn't know what I was doing, we left Los Angeles, only to come to an area (Colorado) that is far spookier. Figgers!LOL

Thats my only take on ghosts.
I still work on houses with children involved, as many of the orbs (which to me showed as people) because the ghosts have rather powerful anger when upset, such as a psychic source leaving them behind. I was once picked up and slammed down on a cross that my mother treasured, blessed by her pope. The cross shattered. My butt hurt, too. I was forced to the floor, and held there till my husband found me. He pulled me from the room. We were in the last stages of leaving that house, a very old very lovely painted lady. The resident was the lumberman who had built the house for his lady, only to be murdered by his rival for her hand.
Fasinating, but scared the whump outta me.
We moved to Colorado rather unthinkingly, onlyto hit the New Mexico border and have the whole thing start again.
Healinglove,
zeneagle
 
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Hi Christina,
I'm fine, sorta....Thank you for asking, tis appreciated.

The discarnate is NOT an orb, nor will it ever be an orb.
I have found that orbs are humans, just a bit confused or unwilling to leave home.

I have found discarnates are not human, but some kind of unpleasant THING. This one killed the lady in the picture. She ate like a horse, yet still lost all weight and died.

Most of the Haunts (for lack of better terminology- I was never a hunter like Ashley was/is) simply want recognition and conversation. When my knees were not shaking, I could and do still speak to the occasional lurking person. Not having a definite way to address them, I always treated them with respect and courtesy.

There was only one that didn't respond to me in any manner, the one pictured.

Because I seem to be able to converse with them, as I would an animal, what I was doing, casually, on the side, came tothe attention of Scott Rogo, Raymond Bayless, David St.Clair and Dr. Thelma Moss and her lab in UCLA.

They tested me in many manners, most of which I didn't understand, but they did. So, after the testings, they would take me with them on some off-the-wall midnight sojourn. They had equipment galore, cameras, sensors of all kinds, and got pictures of the orbs, large and small,inspecting the equipment. They were fascinating. Some had been in place so many years they didn't want to "go to the light" nor anything else. When that was suggested to them, they would leave so fast you couldn't get it on camera.

There is a small Toys-r-Us store in Los Angeles that our group visited. Nothing showed up on the cameras or other stuff though I was sitting there, talking to the old man that was in front of my knocking knees.
I was taught NOTHING, as the group wanted to catch the interaction between myself and anything. I have held some fascinating conversations under stairs, in cellars, on roofs.

The odd thing about the entire time of working with them; the orbs(?) had information to give about crimes committed in OUR time, not theirs. The police would ask Dr. Moss to put the group in an area that was a bit spooky (to me, anyway) and send me out like a ghost-sensing dog, as the persons I talked to did not always turn up on the cameras.

So when the police began to use Dr. Moss's group on a regular basis, she decided enough was enough and refused to use us in that manner.
Personally, I was grateful.
I became accustomed to speaking and seeing them, but never became entirely comfortable with them. Also, at some times, I would shoot my mouth off at one of them, and all would leave the rude conversationalist. Deservedly.

It is very interesting, but I never had much courage, so am sure I missed a lot of it.

I still can't use a camera, as a blue bolt will go through any shot I try to take.

Not wanting to be involved in the group, since I really didn't know what I was doing, we left Los Angeles, only to come to an area (Colorado) that is far spookier. Figgers!LOL

Thats my only take on ghosts.
I still work on houses with children involved, as many of the orbs (which to me showed as people) because the ghosts have rather powerful anger when upset, such as a psychic source leaving them behind. I was once picked up and slammed down on a cross that my mother treasured, blessed by her pope. The cross shattered. My butt hurt, too. I was forced to the floor, and held there till my husband found me. He pulled me from the room. We were in the last stages of leaving that house, a very old very lovely painted lady. The resident was the lumberman who had built the house for his lady, only to be murdered by his rival for her hand.
Fasinating, but scared the whump outta me.
We moved to Colorado rather unthinkingly, onlyto hit the New Mexico border and have the whole thing start again.
Healinglove,
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Hi Christina,
I'm fine, sorta....Thank you for asking, tis appreciated.

The discarnate is NOT an orb, nor will it ever be an orb.
I have found that orbs are humans, just a bit confused or unwilling to leave home.

I have found discarnates are not human, but some kind of unpleasant THING. This one killed the lady in the picture. She ate like a horse, yet still lost all weight and died.

Most of the Haunts (for lack of better terminology- I was never a hunter like Ashley was/is) simply want recognition and conversation. When my knees were not shaking, I could and do still speak to the occasional lurking person. Not having a definite way to address them, I always treated them with respect and courtesy.

There was only one that didn't respond to me in any manner, the one pictured.

Because I seem to be able to converse with them, as I would an animal, what I was doing, casually, on the side, came to the attention of Scott Rogo, Raymond Bayless, David St.Clair and Dr. Thelma Moss and her Parapsychology Lab in UCLA.

They tested me in many manners, most of which I didn't understand, but they did. So, after the testings, they would take me with them on some off-the-wall midnight sojourn. They had equipment galore, cameras, sensors of all kinds, and got pictures of the orbs, large and small,inspecting the equipment. They were fascinating. Some had been in place so many years they didn't want to "go to the light" nor anything else. When that was suggested to them, they would leave so fast you couldn't get it on camera.

There is a small Toys-r-Us store in Los Angeles that our group visited. Nothing showed up on the cameras or other stuff though I was sitting there, talking to the old man that was in front of my knocking knees.
I was taught NOTHING, as the group wanted to catch the interaction between myself (the idiot who talked with air) and anything. I have held some fascinating conversations under stairs, in cellars, on roofs.

The odd thing about the entire time of working with them; the orbs(?) had information to give about crimes committed in OUR time, not theirs. The police would ask Dr. Moss to put the group in an area that was a bit spooky (to me, anyway) and send me out like a ghost-sensing dog, as the persons I talked to did not always turn up on the cameras.

So when the police began to use Dr. Moss's group on a regular basis, she decided enough was enough and refused to use us in that manner.
Personally, I was grateful.
I became accustomed to speaking and seeing them, but never became entirely comfortable with them. Also, at some times, I would shoot my mouth off at one of them, and all would leave the rude conversationalist. Deservedly.

It is very interesting, but I never had much courage, so am sure I missed a lot of it.

I still can't use a camera, as a blue bolt will go through any shot I try to take.

Not wanting to be involved in the group, since I really didn't know what I was doing, we left Los Angeles, only to come to an area (Colorado) that is far spookier. Figgers!LOL

Thats my only take on ghosts.
I still work on houses with children involved, as many of the orbs (which to me showed as people) because the ghosts have rather powerful anger when upset, such as a psychic source leaving them behind. I was once picked up and slammed down on a cross that my mother treasured, blessed by her pope. The cross shattered. My butt hurt, too. I was forced to the floor, and held there till my husband found me. He pulled me from the room. We were in the last stages of leaving that house, a very old very lovely painted lady. The resident was the lumberman who had built the house for his lady, only to be murdered by his rival for her hand.
Fasinating, but scared the whump outta me.
We moved to Colorado rather unthinkingly, onlyto hit the New Mexico border and have the whole thing start again.
Healinglove,
zeneagle
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Hi fambly,

I am terribly sorry this posted over and over.
I don't know what happened, but aside from this apology, I will not post till I know whatis wrong withputer.
again, so sorry.
zeneagle
 
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Zen, You can delete extra posts by clicking the pencil in the bottom right hand corner of the message. A box will pop up and there's a link near the Post Now button that asks, "Delete Message...?" Click that.

Please don't stop posting. I love to read your posts -- over and over and over again. Wink


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I'll second that, Cris! Big Grin

Lynn, I remember you telling me about Dr. Moss's group and your experiences one evening in chat. I find that fascinating. I would LOVE to have scientists follow me around sometime! LOL
Also, no need for being spooked or fearful ~ you stand in Love; you're untouchable as long as you know where you stand. Wink

AND...I've been known to shoot my mouth off rudely to "them" before. Especially when it's not really appropriate for me to hold a conversation at that present moment. I went through enough of the "OMG she's crazy/ psycho/ schizo" stuff in my earlier years, so now I've learned to temper it a bit when I feel I need to. When "they" are really impatient and won't take "no" for an answer, I tend to get snippy (which I later feel badly for doing).

Discarnates (as Lynn described them) do interact with me on occasion...thank goodness I only allow the ones with good intent to converse with me. The others? I just hit 'em with Love and watch them run. Wink


Ashley M. Henry, QTP, LMT, & ARC1

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Huggie, I found your post:

http://quantumtouch.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3531...701000081#4701000081

It looks very interesting and I will use it.
Do you talk in your mind or with your physical voice? Probably, I will be startled, if there is a reply :-)


John, I took the photos with a Fuji s9500. This is not a SLR, but dust can enter the camera anyway. However, photos later at home that night, came out completely normal :-)

Michel
 
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I didn't know enough to choose who I would speak with, therefore got into the middle of several diescarnate "brawls". They can be loud and clear. Its the ones that simply roar that scare me silly.

CRIS... the pages on my posts have no pencils, quotes, etc. Only a set of ". I was searching for them when I kept adding and adding...sorry.

love ya all, zen


"Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul and sings the tune without words and never stops at all"
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Zen, thank you for your posts!! The picture of the woman is scary alright (there was no flash?).

Your story is actually frightening. Being smashed to the ground?!!.. It sounds a bit like Poltergeist... I also cannot imagine, how I would react, if someone replies out "of thin air".

Tuesday, I will be going back in broad daylight, if time permits. I am not looking for adventure, nor do I want to amuse myself. There is just something so fascinating about it. I simply have to go back. And see it again. I'll be sure to talk to them (in my mind or physical voice??).

Michel
 
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Originally posted by Qwerty:
Does anyone agree that the window's contents do not seem the same in both pictures, e.g. the top left one?


Qwerty,
In the one pic #203 I do see an image in upper left hand window, of a woman holding something in her arms the other photo definatley does not have the image.


also in the window diagonaly from it looks like someone sitting at a table with the arms out streached on the table maybe with hands folded together.

I also see many images on the porch of both pics.

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Michel,

Use whatever voice you feel comfortable in using ~ either one will be heard, loud and clear, as the voice of love and compassion comes from the heart. Smiler

If you choose to capture a conversation on tape, you can PM me anytime and I'll be happy to help you get set up for what we call EVP work ~ electronic voice phenomena ~ which is amazing to listen to! Big Grin

Many blessings, and I'll ask for your protection and send added love and compassion your way.


Ashley M. Henry, QTP, LMT, & ARC1

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Linda, thanks for seeing something in the windows :-) I thought, I had gone crazy. I only see faces looking outside at the photograph (they do not seem to be smiling..), but I thought it was just my imagination. I'll have a new look to see the table and arms.

Ashley, great idea! I'll try and buy a simple recorder. Thank you for asking for protection. Really appreciate that! Last time, I went, I brought a video recorder (hoping to record moving orbs), but I saw nothing. At one point in the recording, however, I hear what sounds like a piano :-) Too weird...
Can you let me know, what to do for the EVP work, but if I don't find a voice recorder in time, it will be for another visit..

Thank you!
Michel

PS. If you do a search with Google on "sas van gent ghost house", you will see many results.

This is one of them and offers high quality pictures in both daytime and darkness.

http://arachula.net/svg/spookhuis/images/foto0.html

Unfortunately, the daytime pictures seem completely normal?

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does anyone here know what I may have been in contact with?

I was on vacation and was sleeping on the floor in front of an dehumidifier durring a real hot spell. It wasnt drafty just comfortable.

about 2:00 am I woke up to a warm rush of real putrid air it smelled something horrible like rotting fleash (I can only imagine i've never smelled it)
when I sat up it went away. I didnt see anything but I got this impression of it being kind of rust colored. Maybe the smell triggered a color memory.

The family told me that happens a lot in their home and they have to do a spiritual cleansing and blessing with herbs incense and sea salt on the house almost daily to keep it away. They think their house could be haunted. their child talks about seeing scary things at night. shes only 2 1/2 yrs old, she discribes this being in great detail with what was said to her.


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