Kweden,

It was a mutation in our DNA that stopped us from producing an enzyme necessary to manufacture our own vitamin C.

There is a process that most animals use to produce vitamin C from glucose that includes four different enzymes. Humans can produce the first three enzymes but have lost the ability to produce the final enzyme, l-gulonolactone oxidase, because of a specific gene deficiency. (I just had to look it up again. The specific pseudogene that is defective is psi-GULO.)

Some other animals have also lost this ability. Somewhere along our evolutionary path, this gene became defective and we've been left to find external sources of vitamin C.

Denise, I was not saying to stop all antioxidents...just don't increase them while you are taking MMS. Jim Humble says the beauty about the MMS is that each particle of chlorine dioxide only lasts 2 hours, and then it is gone leaving no residue. So, don't take antioxidents until at least 2 hours after you have taken it, and not too soon before, either.

He also says if you are taking prescription drugs, pay attention. A strengthened immune system may recognize them as the toxins they are and attempt to neutralize their effects.

This MMS stuff is indeed interesting.

Love and Light,
Winder

many great replies. u r all pimps. I got calcium buffered vitamin c AKA calcium ascorbate my homies. ebay- healthy java

Calcium ascorbate is a good choice for those of you with sensitive stomachs, although it doesn't convert into as much usable vitamin C in the body as you'd get with the same amount of ascorbic acid. Sodium ascorbate is also a decent choice, but I've found that I can handle ascorbic acid without stomach upset. That's the form closest to what the body needs, so that's the one I take.

Anything is better than nothing, though, so take whichever form seems to work best for you and your digestive system.

Thanks for the post, I thought it was a little bit weaker. It claims 5,000mg of vit.C per teaspoon.. Sounds like you understand it does in fact provide a close amount to that.. That's good news!

Yeah, you'll be fine with it. The thing to watch out for with the powders is the taste. Ick! I haven't tried calcium ascorbate, but sodium ascorbate tastes awful. It was gag-inducing for me. It took a while to get used to it. That's another reason I just take the ascorbic acid pills now.

Oh I was aware of what I was giieeting into with the taste~ I also got MSM powder so you know how that stuff if probably lol! Take Care, Peace!

Hi Anto sorry I took so long to reply, just logged in today. You wanted to know what I intended to for my teeth and gums with the MMS.
Jim Humble said in the book that he had bad teeth for years. He mixed up the MMS solution in a glass and used it to brush his teeth. All infections and soreness were gone in a matter of hours! Within a week his gums were hardened.
He was scheduled to have a bad tooth taken out. The dentist had to struggle hard to get it out because apparently the root had grown very strong. When the dentist looked at the tooth neither he nor Jim could see anything wrong with it. Jim says MMS will cure bad teeth and make gums healthy. However it cannot heal an abscess if it cannot reach it. So if you have an abcess in your tooth or jaw, there has to be a hole or some kind of passage for the MMS to get to it and cure it. It cannot cure it otherwise, Otherwise you will have perfect teeth in 3 weeks. Caution do not leave MMS solution in mouth for more than 60 seconds. See page 10 of the first book and pg 9 of the 2nd book for complete info
......original message from Anto
Just be careful companion... please don't go overboard.. that stuff sounds like it has the potential to be really dangerous. Earlier in the thread it was mentioned that you have to slowly increase the dosage, so yea, please follow your own advice, haha.

What are you trying to achieve for your teeth and gums? Let us know how it turns out.

And steve, I'm not too sure I believe the zapper (i've tried it, it seems silly, lol) but colloidal silver and olive leaf, i agree those are great.

-Anto, A Fellow QT Practitioner and Instructor! YES

I got a private message re. progress which I can't answer for some reason due to problems logging in, so here's an update. I tried mms for about 4 days, for suspected candida infection, but was finding some uncomfortable results - lots of wind! I was building up to 15 drops from 7, but only got to 10, which had severe results. If I'd been sure that was a good sign I may have persevered, but I also found the smell/taste of chlorine getting more unpleasant. That, and the uncertainty of what I was doing and if it was working, put me off.

I think if I had malaria, I would be happy to take 15 drops once or twice, and experience almost instant relief! But for my problems, it wasn't pleasant and I'm not sure if it's effective, so I stopped using it.

I'm now doing lots of vegetable juicing and taking care of my eating which is having good results. I think I prefer to alkalinize my system in a gentler way and enjoy the process! I'm also taking olive leaf, as was suggested.

A friend, taking it for Hep C, got flu symptoms and wasn't sure whether it was a healing crisis or just flu, so stopped too. It seemed to be flu as it lasted over a week.

Hi Jani. That should not be a problem. I used to eat some sugar free chocolate products
and because the artificial sweetners were not digested sometimes I would get bloated and gas would build up. I found an easy solution. I got CharcoCaps which are activated charcoal tablets. They not only get rid of gas but also any toxins in your digestive system. I got mine in the local Walgreens, no prescription needed. However, if you are basicly healthy you may not need MMS. Although it probably is good as a preventive measure. Trevor

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I got a private message re. progress which I can't answer for some reason due to problems logging in, so here's an update. I tried mms for about 4 days, for suspected candida infection, but was finding some uncomfortable results - lots of wind! I was building up to 15 drops from 7, but only got to 10, which had severe results. If I'd been sure that was a good sign I may have persevered, but I also found the smell/taste of chlorine getting more unpleasant. That, and the uncertainty of what I was doing and if it was working, put me off.

I think if I had malaria, I would be happy to take 15 drops once or twice, and experience almost instant relief! But for my problems, it wasn't pleasant and I'm not sure if it's effective, so I stopped using it.

I'm now doing lots of vegetable juicing and taking care of my eating which is having good results. I think I prefer to alkalinize my system in a gentler way and enjoy the process! I'm also taking olive leaf, as was suggested.

A friend, taking it for Hep C, got flu symptoms and wasn't sure whether it was a healing crisis or just flu, so stopped too. It seemed to be flu as it lasted over a week.

Through looking into MMS after Trevor's post here (thank you, Trevor), I've come across Adam Abraham, who has a blog called Thought for Food and I think he has a lot of good information on MMS. I suspect many of you who are looking into using MMS have come across him, but for those who haven't had the chance yet, here are a few of Adam's posts:
http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/no-miracle...wonderful-chemistry/
http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/mms-from-a...menon-to-a-movement/
(please see comments on the post immediately above for a report from a woman named Marlene regarding how much MMS has helped her with Multiple Sclerosis)

Adam has just completed a DVD about MMS called Understanding MMS: Conversations wtih Jim Humble that you can read about here: http://shop.understanding-mms.com/understandingmmsdvd.aspx (If you want to order it, however, it's $10 less at Global Light Network: http://www.globallight.net/Books-Cd-Dvd_16.html)

Through researching MMS, I've also come across Transdermal Magnesium Therapy on Adam's blog, and that's another avenue to dealing with chronic health issues. Adam Abraham is the publisher and editor of a book on that subject written by Mark Sircus. You'll be hearing more about that from me later.

I hope this information is useful to some of you!

All the best,

Denise

There's one thing I really don't understand. Perhaps those of you who have read the book can explain their reasoning. How does MMS differentiate between good bacteria and bad bacteria? If this stuff miraculously kills bad bacteria, why would it not also kill off all the "good" bacteria in our bodies?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found my answer. Sort of. Here is a quote:

"Throughout the body, anywhere chlorine dioxide ions – transported via red blood cells – come in contact with pathogens, the pathogens give up their electrons and cease to exist. The chlorine dioxide armed cells only “detonate” on contact with pathogens, which include harmful bacteria, viruses, toxins, heavy metals, and parasites. All of these will have pH values that are out of the body’s range of good health. They will also have a positive ionic charge. The chlorine dioxide equipped cells do not oxidize beneficial bacteria, or healthy cells, as their pH levels are 7 or above, and hold a negative ion charge."

I'd like to hear this information from someone qualified to give it, though. At face value, I don't see any reason why "bad" bacteria would have a different pH and charge than "good" bacteria. Bacteria is bacteria. There are aerobic and anaerobic forms, but I'd like to know more about how MMS affects the beneficial bacteria.

Hi Neiby, I had that exact same question, and I've come across a couple of different explanations. I'll see if I can track them down again and post here. -- Denise

There are also situations where a bacteria might be beneficial in one location in our body but very bad for you in another location. The perfect example is E. Coli. It would not be a good thing, in those cases, to kill off all of that type of bacteria. How would MMS magically kill the bacteria that is in a bad location but leave the bacteria in a good location alone?

I just found this study that was done to assess the safety of daily ingestion of chlorine dioxide.

Controlled Clinical Evaluations of Chlorine Dioxide

They found no clinically significant physiological effects and determined that, within the limits of the study, ingestion of chlorine dioxide and its metabolites (chlorite and chlorate) is safe.