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Hi,
I'm aware of similarities between the machines by Royal Rife, Bob Beck and Hulda Clark but can anyone explain the differences?
Also I'd love to hear of anyone's experiences with any of these "zappers".
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Christina


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Hi:

Here is a link that explains the difference on Bob Beck's Blood Purifier and Hulda Clark's Zappers and magnetic pulsers.

Pam

http://www.toolsforhealing.com...sBetweenZappers.html

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Hmmm, thanks Pam, that helps.
I wonder what the advantage is to a square wave.
And where the rife machine fits in.
At least one type of Bob Beck's zappers also makes colloidal silver. Smiler


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I've been looking at these devices for years and have some. With the crackdown on alternatives, I decided I wanted a few of these gadgets around. I also have been studying rife machines ever since I was so ill last summer.

The main idea is that the critters we don't want (bacteria, viruses, parasites) vibrate at some frequency - if you match the frequency they burst. All of these devices speak in very vague language, as they are not allowed to claim a thing. But if you hang around on various lists for long enough you bump into personal reviews of this or that.

There are a few Bob Beck devices, the combo of which he felt could pretty much deal with most any infection you had. The series of them are made by Sota and others, and include a blood electrification gadget (mild current sent in via wrist straps), a magnetic pulser (burst of magnetic energy), a colloidal silver maker (part of his blood electrifier/purifier, but I use the one made by silverpuppy.com), and an ozonator to ozonate water (I have a cheaper one from Dr Katz's site).
http://www.toolsforhealing.com...eck/BobBeckInfo.html
Also Sota's own site has info, history, etc.

Hulda Clark came up with the zapper that uses a specific frequency (I think 30,000 Hz) of DC current (9 volt battery), and feels that this DC current zaps all critters that it can reach. She published the plans so you could make your own and so some company couldn't hog the knowledge. Her zapper model uses hand holds or wrist straps. Now various companies make them. I use a brand called the Terminator which just tucks into your waistband. I am completely delighted with it; it's knocked out impending colds in hours, and when I think to wear it a lot it gives me a feeling of wellness. I'll wear it for many days, then am not drawn to it for a while. Then I forget it in a drawer for months till I think of it again. I have recommended it to many people/friends who also love their Terminators. (I have no connection to toolsforhealing alas) It seems to work best on things that are closer to the surface instead of deep inside like inside the gall bladder, though maybe the longer term use would deal with deep things too.

All these gadgets are relatively inexpensive, that is, 100 and up. Not cheap, but can be helpful.

I began studying Rife machines after I wondered if Lyme was perhaps too tricky for these smaller strength gadgets. There are many many kinds of Rife machines!!!! They are all expensive!!! It's hard to get info/testimonials since the full knowledge of what Royal Rife actually used/did is incomplete, but there are several lyme yahoo groups that seem know a lot. All info is experimental only; no claims are made at all about what they do! You apparently may experiment on yourself, but that's all.

The current 'Rife' machines seem to be of 2 types: some sort of beaming device using plasma tubes or coil antennae, or some sort of contact device with handholds or footpads. The frequencies they deliver vary widely, some have from 0 to 20,000 Hz, one I found goes to 80 megaHz, and one to 1.5 gigaHz. Some use audible sound, some radio waves, some photons. Most require you to set your desired frequency, or they might run a pre-set program, but some do a complete cycling through their entire repertoire without you fiddling with dials.

It's been a daunting task to try to sift through it all. They are all too pricey for me for a 'just in case' kind of stocking-the-first-aid-kit. Most seem to be in the 1000 to 3000 range and some are way higher! Lyme people seem to have their preferences of brands, and many have found them very helpful but not a solo method. Other machines may help other conditions enough. Interestingly, whenever I go to a website that has the name r*** in it, my computer's connection to the internet is cut. Hmmm.

There is a company in Australia that has a free download of the Frex frequency generating software.
http://www.heal-me.com.au/
Also you could try
You could perhaps solve your ? with this program that runs on your computer. You can get a list of frequencies that people have found useful here
http://www.electroherbalism.co...quenciesandAnecdotes
/The_Electroherbalism_Frequency_Lists_book.htm
There is a printed book of them, or you can download them for free also.

One thing to keep in mind with all of the these things (as well as meds and herbs, etc) is the Herxheimer effect. Your system might not feel so great if you tackle some critters too fast. If you have a big time infection going on, do whatever you can to clear the detox pathways in your system and begin your treatments slowly.

There are other electronic devices that work on the boost-your-immune system method; they deliver a frequency that is said to promote balance and health, so your own system then does the job. They claim to be matching the frequency of chi from Qi Gong healers hands, etc. This is more like the QT approach, in which we are offering energy for the system to soak up and use as it wishes/needs.

Well, that's more than enough rambling. I hope someone who has actually used a rife machine lets us know more!
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Hi Holly,

I have a buddy who has lyme and uses a rife device called an EMEM made by Dan Tracy. He has a 6 week waiting list for these devices. He designed a simplified economy version of his device for people with Lyme disease. I beleive the cost is around $5-600 and runs the frequencies through a plasma tube which you stand or sit in front of. A typical treatment is only a few minutes as this device is very powerful. It comes with an analog frequency generator which he claims works better than many of the new digital machines. I can give you my friends email if you have any more questions about it. I beleive you have to request the budget unit. Here's the site.

http://www.rifelabs.com/price.html


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Hmmm, E-bay has some Beck's for $58 (+shipping) and it makes colloidal silver too. And even tho it's meant for the blood my understanding is that like Clark's it can be modified with a plate or foil for organs.
Still learning.
Thanks everyone for your responses.
Christina


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Hi Christina,

Many people get great results with the Beck protcols. Lyme is one of the hardest diseases to get rid of according to what I've heard. So hence people with Lyme opting for the more powerful Rife equipment. I think the Beck stuff is great and use it myself all the time. It would be my first course of action before trying the Rife machine. Think of the Beck protocol and Hulda Clark zappers as broad spectrum bio-electronic treatments. The Rife machine is for dialing in specific pathogen frequencies.

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Steve

PS for Zappers I recommend this ebay store http://stores.ebay.com/Get-it-While-You-Can as they are very inexpensive, reliable, and built to Hulda Clark specs.

If you are into hands-free operation with the added benefit of scalar wave healing via a crystal, mobius coil, magnet, and orgonite, then the Terminator Zapper is a keeper. He has some feedback from people who have recovered from cancer and many other diseases using this zapper:

http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/how.html

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Here's another site with info on a variety of bioelectronics.
http://royalrife.com/zappers.html
I don't know if he has a particular bias or what.

Thanks Steve for the info on the EMEM, which I have heard good things about. I actually have his site saved along with a dozen others, lol.

Since I don't have any current dramatic conditions, it's hard to guess what might be the most useful. I am drawn to Gary Wade's 10A and Meissner's DP100, only since they don't require you to know what ails you (they scan through all their frequencies automatically). But since I can't find enough personal reports of how well they worked, I'm waiting.

Meanwhile, for most things homeopathic nosodes are pretty straightforward to make, and the price is right, lol
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I have use a terminator zapper for years. My
first one broke and I sent it in for repair.
He replaced it for free with a new one.

I am generally very healthy, but I know of one situation where I started to get a sore throat at work. When I got home, I put the zapper on my throat overnight and was ok the next day. My buddy, who had been coughing and hacking had to call in sick the next day. He was miserably sick.

With the "swine flu" scare the govt has cooked up, I am glad I have my zapper!


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I have a rife machine at home now since nov 08. I use it for my children [teeth]and they alll had no cavities. even though my youngest had black marks on his teeth the dentist said thewre was no cavities.I have used it for my shoulders and back and have not found much difference . But when the flu went through the school my guys where only sick one nite and fine the next day. appro.40% of the school was out with the flu. my machine also has the ion cleanser on it.I am using it right now for an infection in the chest and it is clearing that up very nicely.
 
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What kind/brand of rife machine do you use? It sounds like your machine is a very handy device to have.
Also, someone on a list I'm on has recently started gathering info on rife machines and putting it all into a table. This is a work in progress (for example, it doesn't include the 10A or the DP100), but gives us a starting point to try to keep all these types of machines straight.
http://www.rifewiki.org/wiki/R.I.F.E_Machine_Table
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my machine comes from total energy. it is made in goderich ont cananda the frequencies for my machine are designed for this machine only. i paid 2100.00 for it

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