Hello, Fambly

I am planning on working with a family member of mine who works for the NIH as a medical research lab scientist. He recently got back in touch with me (about 2 months ago) and over the course of conversations with me, he discovered QT. He's purchased and is nearly finished with the book, and he's highly impressed by what he has experienced thusfar with it.

At the very least, he could pass along contacts at other research facilities who may be interested in conducting some studies on QT in particular. To date, there are no peer-reviewed journal articles specifically working with QT published, and I full-well believe it's due time for QT to have something on the books.

What I'm preliminarily looking/asking for with this thread is some "outside the box" ideas which could be incorporated into a solid study. I'd like to see this come to fruition by the end of 2007, and it's a decently long process to undertake. I'm willing to put forth my spare time in working with my cousin to formulate a simple study...if anyone has any ideas they'd like to share for suggestions on what to focus on specifically in the study (do we want quantitative or qualitative data to be the primary focus - that's a good starting point), please do share here. With study data being published left and right on other energy modalities, I think now would be a wonderfully opportune time to jump on the bandwagon and get this "out there" for the medical journals.

Love to you all!

I'd like to see a study to see how brainwave activity is affected on people who have QT administered to them. This gets back to the stuff in the book where Richard and Dr. Shealy worked on the same thing. If a large-scale study can reproduce the results, it should generate significant interest in further research.

Ashley, I'm really glad you made this topic because I was going to if you didn't, haha. Making QT pass wikipedia's standards is extremely difficult despite QT's popularity and it's a terrible sign that we need more 3rd party studies done!

The studies we need don't have to be difficult, they can be very simple in fact. The following idea is the simplest idea yet it is effective in showing the effect that QT has or doesn't have.

In vitro studies done with ecoli for example provide very good evidence of us having an effect on living cells. They are a good way for us to get our foot in the door of the scientific community because this is apparently what they look for.

Rather than using humans which are very complex and have placebo effects associated with them, invitro testing with bacteria cells would probably be the simplest and easiest thing to show the scientific community.

These tests shouldn't take over a day. You would basically have the control group of bacteria and the other set would have QT applied. Then you would incubate these groups and compare the amount they have grown. It would be easy to see and measure the amount of bacteria growth of the different groups. If QT has any affect, the QT-ed group would have grown much more. We can also have different groups, one may be hands-on healing group, another may be long-distance healing group, another may be 2 people performing hands on QT and so on.

These tests should be very easy to perform. If I were a biology major at my university, I would even be able to use their lab to carry this experiment because they have all the equipment.

I would like to see a study done that shows QT's effectivness in moving bones. Xrays, proper measurements done before and afterwards. How effective are distance sessions. Could even test the QT practitioner's ability to measure how far out bones are (hips for ex) via distance scanning.

It would be really interesting to track tumour shrinking via ultrasound. For ex, here is a video showing 4 qi gong masters shrinking a tumour literally in seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5xWQ1Mz_oo

QT's ability to reduce pain is also a good one.

Maybe we could gather a handful of stroke survivors with physical impairment and see how QT helps them regain use. An ailment that western medicine can't help very much would be a good thing to test. Scoliosis, old multiple sclerosis damage...??

Great idea Ashley!!

http://www.touchresearch.com/
This organization has the goods when it comes to research like WE want to see done. Look into this...Julie

http://www6.miami.edu/touch-research/workshop.htm
This page in particular has a workshop on how to conduct research in touch therapy. I believe that these standards are what is needed to conduct something that will hold up under professional investigation. Ms Fields has done research that the NIH supports and shows reference to currently. Her protocols are up to standards.

These are all great suggestions. In addition to all of this, I'd like to see it documented (perhaps on video, without editing of course)where a child learns QT for the first time and then facilitates a healing session on someone unknown to them.

The healer (the recipient)should be monitored for results based on whatever body part they are in need of repairing. There should be several sessions done on different people. Some where they are aware of the session being facilitated by the child and another where they are unaware. Such as a distance session. Or even when they are aware of a session taking place, surprise them afterwards by showing them that the facilitator was a child who just learned the technique. In these cases, I think the results could be claimed to be less psychologically attributed since the healer (recipient) would be unaware of the session or of the facilitator's experience and age.

What fun it would be to be a part of this type of experiment! The point of course is to prove that anyone can do it, and that it is real and works whether the healer is aware of the session or not.

WOW!!! I don't know where to begin...

Julie, thank you SO much for the link to the research standards for touch therapies! This is a crucial cornerstone for a study that will stand up to scrutiny of any kind...very helpful in the beginning stages which is where I'm at in revising things.

All these suggestions are absolutely incredible!!! It's a wonderful starting place to get QT on the books, and I'm excited to see a prospective study (or five) starting to unfold for such a wonderful modality of healing work. Keep it going, let's see how many we can create!!!

In Gratitude & Love~

Am I right in thinking that there was an incidence that Richard Gordon described where a skeptic scientist moved the cranial bones even though he believed it was impossible? It'd be great to prove that QT can do things that conventional medicine/ thinking doesn't believe. I especially think that focusing on moving bones would be easy to prove and would be beneficial - seeing as this is so often the focus of a QT demonstration and this aspect sets it aside from many other healing therapies.

Best of luck with the project!

Debbie

How about a study on the effects of QT on cancer cells in the short term and then again over a longer term study?

Updating and conglomerating here...sorry I've been *absent* for a bit...

In discussing all this with Duke, I've found out that pretty much anyone can write up a study, and propose it to any research institute of their choice. I'm working on establishing contacts with The Touch Research Institute, as well as within the NIH and Mayo Clinic. My Mom's pulmonary care doc @ Mayo sent me a sympathy card where she'd passed, and I just received it yesterday. I took that as some sort of *hint* from Source Information (LOL!) and I called down there to speak with him. I was able to gather some pretty important information from him, and he got me going in the right direction with the right people @ Mayo!

I'm sincerely hoping to have 3 different preliminary studies written, edited, and referenced VERY well by the end of April, then comes the copyright process (which many of you have given me SO much assistance and direction, I'm so very grateful!), and finally the submission. Here's my ideas, taken from the wonderful insights and suggestions raised here on this thread (and where I'd think they'd be best submitted):

1. Anto's idea of a basic observation of bacterium receiving QT from a practitioner really rung some bells for Duke and I. It's the most fundamental form to study, very easy to perform, and very much scientific-based. Something I believe would be best handled by the NIH, due to the nature of the test *subjects*.

2. Moving bones of any sort with QT, utilizing conventional diagnostic and measurement equipment. X-rays would be optimal, however somewhat costly...the folks at Mayo were extremely interested in the idea of an energetic modality moving bones (even gave them the web address!), so I'm thinking we may have a *bite* there with this particular approach.

3. The suggestion of observing changes in the brainwave patterns of the healer would be very much in alignment with something The Touch Research Institute would perform. I believe I had read on PubMed in a few places where this, and various other diagnostic methods, had been used to make scientific observations with Reiki, Polarity, Zero-Balancing, and even Jin Shin Jyutsu... however most of it was biofeedback. Not discouraging biofeedback in any way, as it's just as viable and reliable as any other method, but I feel like an EEG would be the best bet. Sharon's story of working with her husband, and the monitors acting crazy--WOW. If a research institute would be able to provide an EKG, an EEG, and maybe a sphygmomanometer (blood pressure cuff w/gauge), it would be very possible to study, and RECORD, changes within the body during a handful of one-hour QT sessions (this was the primary focus of the school project I did last year). We'd be using conventional diagnostics to measure and record an alternative healing modality...how cool would that be?!?!

In doing any type of cancer research, there are so many variables that come into play which would make it extremely costly, time-variant on the parts of the subjects, and then we'd also have to have clearance from primary care physicians, oncologists, etc...so that one will take much more time to develop and proof. I, too, would really love to see something done like the clip of the Qigong Masters dissolving the intestinal tumor...and it's possible, just not as easy to get put together as some of the others. I'm still working with it in the background, though, as I have an acquaintance from pre-med classes who is now in the last months of her internship in oncology at UK Hospital in Lexington, KY. She suggests that once I feel like I've gotten something *down-pat* I should look into contacting one of the cancer research institutes about conducting it.

Now, what I *need* is communication with Richard or anyone else in Admin who is working on research as well, so I know where to go with these projects. I agree with everyone in our community, hands-down, that QT deserves some top-notch research...beyond the Wiki article, QT needs some concrete studies published in well-respected journals. I am willing to help with their efforts to get this going. While I may not be a research scientist, I've been overtly involved in research of any kind for over 8 years now, as family illnesses have put my nose to the books in finding other ways to treat conditions that aren't optimal...especially in my Mom's case before she passed. If someone from Admin can PM me, email me, etc. that would be AWESOME. I don't want to step on toes in any way...I'm interested in helping the process along in any way I can.

Much Love, Gratitude, and HUGE Hugs for all the help and insight, everyone!!!

Wow Ashley!! Nice work!

I'm right with you here and fully support anything you can do to get this research done. If there is any way I can help you, please let me know ok? I 'too' and a research maniac

Just have to say that I am so excited by all this work and the possibilities. If I wasn't in the midst of the most amazing time of my life (which is meaning that I am incredibly busy) I would *so* be all over helping in every way possible. Feeling thankful for you all and the progress that is being made. This is simply amazing. I feel like this in another thing in my life that is on the brink of being blasted wide open in the best possible way. HOORAY for QT and all of you!

Love,
Sheri

When the time is right Ash, let me know what I can do to help, please.

I like the idea of QT's effects on cells. Objective, easy to quantify and hopefully analyze and write up. Probably not expensive either if you are working w/a readily available species! How about testing the pH of any given substance? Maybe vinegar or water? Just a thought.