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I've heard it said that Core can be better for self-healing than regular, "breathing" QT (basic/supercharging). I'd like to understand more about this claim and any ways these differences are currently understood.

One more thing I've been thinking about is whether perhaps the idea that I see promoted with QT--that it's more effective to have someone else send you energy--may simply be a limited belief. With enough honest self-love and allowing...why not? Admittedly, this self-love may need to be greatly cultivated for nearly all of us because our culture does not teach or value self-love very much.

Can it not be as easy and effective to use QT while thoroughly loving oneself, and thus heal oneself, as it is to hold such a loving space for facilitating similar positive shifts for another?
 
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My experience has been that it's as easy for me to heal myself with basic hands-on QT as someone else. I was surprised when I learned that others have different results. I don't think I'm especially narcissisic so I don't think it's self-love. Maybe just acceptance that QT can work on yourself?
 
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It may well be a limiting belief or it may be just more difficult to relate to.

My experience has been that it is easier to work on myself with the Core work vs the basic or SC methods. While others have found this true as well, it is certainly not everyone's experience.

I think you will find as you read more of the posts that some find it quite easy to work on themselves with the basic and SC methods, it is simply not the average experience.

Because the Core work is about flows and their release within you it is much more involved with the personal experience while doing the work. This in turn makes it easier to relate to and experience changes when working on yourself.


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That's what I keep saying. You should be able to heal yourself as well as anyone else. I think it's a limiting belief that holds us back, that, and the unwillingness to spend time on ourselves as we would spend it on others.


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So we've concluded that it's a combination of belief, something about differences in personal experience (perhaps re what's "makes sense" for a given person) with different techniques, and also what you said, Chris, "the unwillingness to spend time on ourselves as we would spend it on others." This last one is what I was really referring to as lack of "self-love."

Markl, in the Shakespearean sense, "self-love" is indeed narcissism (no wonder it got such a bad name), but the way I mean it, it's more of, as you say, "accepting" and being willing to help yourself in a caring way that generously supports yourself in being who you truly are. Who we truly are, of course, includes lots and lots of well-being in every area, so in truly loving/accepting ourselves and that we can enjoy physical ease rather than di-ease, we have the attitude that allows us to self-heal effectively. It seems just that as a culture in general, we tend to cultivate that kind of caring for others more than for ourselves, yet as you point out, it's also quite simple to be at the place where you're willing to self-heal.

Thanks for all your insights so far. I'm grateful that you all have contributed to adding to my understanding! As Alain notes, though, one of the most important aspects of understanding how this works is experiencing what is true for/we can relate easily to/works for us individually. So when the talking's done, it's time for more playing with energy and observing with all our senses the results. Fun! I know I've learned a lot in the process already, and that's what initially led to my asking this question.

Cheers,
Cameron

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I have thought that self-healing may be slower because of the way resonance and entrainment work. When two people are in the equation, the healer and the practitioner, there are two distinct vibrations. The practitioner is always keeping his or her vibration higher, and that allows for the physical principles of resonance and entrainment to come into play very quickly.

When doing self-healing, there are not two different vibrations or frequencies, so that resonance and entrainment are slower to come into play. That may be why FLOW is more effective in self-healing. And the yin or Core Transformation is more about flow than it is about resonance and entrainment. Or so it feels to me.

Without doubt, both yang and yin work. I am in lupus remission and I credit the QT work for that, and it happened before I knew Core at all. The two modes, (Basic and Core) feel very different to me, sometimes not even parts of the same modality, like opposites, but they both work.

I used the words "come into play" twice in previous paragraph on purpose. I believe that approaching either aspect, yang or yin, should have that element of playfulness, the child-like attitude of having fun with it & being open to all possibilities. If you approach it with grim ferocity and deadly seriousness, it just doesn't FLOW.

At least that's how it works for me....Cameron, you have a wonderful smile, and I can sense that you have a great sense of humor and a ready laugh. WOO HOO!! Have a great happy QT day.

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mine was a bit different case. when i first learned qt i prefered using it on my self becaz i could feel the energy easily only on myself and not in others!! what i feel is that when u have a open mind it really does not make any difference but the key factor is that we feel bored doing qt it on ourself and moreover the type of focus i do for allowing differes.1 more thing i missed is that u cant place ur hands comfortably on urself as others and hence by created tension
 
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I perform a lot of healing techniques on myself, including QT and self-care for Maya Abdominal Massage. However, I agree that it does take longer and I always benefit from going to see a practitioner.

I believe that everyone carries a different energetic vibration within them and that is why it is helpful to go and see a practitioner, so they can help to remove some of those stubborn blocks that you can't remove yourself. A different energetic frequency helps a lot.
 
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