I took QT several years ago with Richard and just got the Supercharging book. I know some people who practice Pranic Healing, which was developed by Master Choa Kok Sui. One of the techniques they use is "sweeping", which is supposed to clear out any diseased energy from the person's field. The healer disposes this diseased energy into a bucket of salt water. They claim this is an important part of healing, because if you don't get rid of the diseased energy and just add other healing energy, it can sometimes push the diseased energy further into the person, who will then get detox symptoms.

I personally have a distaste for the idea of needing a bucket of salt walter with me when working on someone. I've seen no mention in any of the QT materials on the idea of "sweeping" or removing the diseased energy first. Therefore, I am wondering what happens on an energetic level to the diseased energy when a healer uses QT. Or do you think the whole idea of diseased energy is a bogus one? I'd like to get a response from someone who can see energy.

I can see energy, and right from the beginning I've seen diseased energy leave people during sessions in all sorts of manners. I don't know about pushing it further into a persons field though. I've developed my own method of removing blockages which helps dispell dark, diseased, or stagnant energy a lot faster.

I do know that most of the time filling an area with light and a high vibration such as QT really pushes this stuff out. The amping technique in Supercharging is really good for working through blockages and moving old energy out.

I've never used a bucket of salt water so I have no idea how it would help the removal of old energy. Perhaps it might attract it?

Hi all, One day I went to a demo by a magnetic healer.He said he was taking the bad energy out first! He then dumped it in the nearest corner: all over me!!
Iused to remove negative energy but Richard posted against it. So I stopped doing that. Didn't seem to make any difference.
I am not at all sure that there is such a thing as "bad". Energy is energy! Energy IS!
Huggie

Hi,

I started my Energy Healing a few years ago with Master Chunyi Lin and his teachings of Qi Gong.
We were advised that all illness is symptom of the imbalance of yin & yang energy. This imbalance creates energy blockages which prevent energy flowing freely to all parts of the body and eventually causes problems.

We could remove blockages by visualisation - imagine the blockage turning to smoke and coming out of the body on the exhale and returning to the Universe. Or you can use sword fingers and stir or chop the aura above the problem area and then pull out the blockage which felt sort of spongey and sticky and again, send it back to the Universe. You then filled the area by sending energy into the place where the blockage had been.
In this form of QiGong we never touched the subject but operated at 9 - 12 inches away from them.

No mention of buckets of salt water, but there again, salt is a great cleanser and I have heard of salt being sprinkled in a room where there is negative energy and it is supposed to absorb the energy and then next morning you can vacuum it away. (As far as I know it worked)

Love and light
Faune

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With QT you are changing the vibration of the energy and it is transformed if you will. We don't "take it out" but as I said transform it.

The idea of good and bad energy has been around for ever and different modalities utilize different ways to deal with things as "they see it".

When I was a Qigong healer we used to "push out" the "dirty qi" through the feet. We also used to draw out the dirty Qi and throw it 3 meters into the earth to get rid of it and then send in new energy through specific points etc. to "refill the client.

One of the things that originally drew me to QT was not having to deal with all that and I have been happier and in many ways more effective ever since.

The person doing Pranic Healing literally keeps a bucket of salt water next to the person. As the healer does the "sweeping", they take the diseased energy and throw it into the bucket. The salt water supposedly makes the energy dissolve.

One funny aspect of all this is that I've observed most of the healers throwing the energy in the vicinity of the bucket, and I've always wondered how they know whether they got the energy into the bucket.

The Pranic Healing people also spray their hands periodically during a session with a spray bottle of alcohol or lavender or a combo, which is also supposed to dissolve any diseased energy left on their hands.

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Originally posted by Sonja:
I can see energy, and right from the beginning I've seen diseased energy leave people during sessions in all sorts of manners. I don't know about pushing it further into a persons field though. I've developed my own method of removing blockages which helps dispell dark, diseased, or stagnant energy a lot faster.

I do know that most of the time filling an area with light and a high vibration such as QT really pushes this stuff out. The amping technique in Supercharging is really good for working through blockages and moving old energy out.

I've never used a bucket of salt water so I have no idea how it would help the removal of old energy. Perhaps it might attract it?

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Originally posted by Huggie:
He said he was taking the bad energy out first! He then dumped it in the nearest corner: all over me!!

Hahahaha thanks for the laugh!

I've also taken Reconnective Healing with Dr. Eric Pearl. He said that for a time when he was starting out doing healing, he used the buckets of salt water. He said the same thing you did, once he decided to get rid of them, his sessions went better.

One thing that attracted me to QT is that you can use it anywhere. As Richard said in the workshop, a parking lot can be your healing clinic if you come across someone that wants help.

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Originally posted by Alain:
With QT you are changing the vibration of the energy and it is transformed if you will. We don't "take it out" but as I said transform it.

The idea of good and bad energy has been around for ever and different modalities utilize different ways to deal with things as "they see it".

When I was a Qigong healer we used to "push out" the "dirty qi" through the feet. We also used to draw out the dirty Qi and throw it 3 meters into the earth to get rid of it and then send in new energy through specific points etc. to "refill the client.

One of the things that originally drew me to QT was not having to deal with all that and I have been happier and in many ways more effective ever since.

What Alain said.

Dowsers identify beneficial and noxious energies, but also maintain that a certain amount of noxious energy is helpful to keep the energy system robust.

The kicker is that what energy is beneficial and what energy is noxious depends on the life form:

"one life form's yummy is another life form's poison"

and

"A little poison is good for you"//I'm pretending Samuel Hahnemann and/or Edward Bach said this //

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Originally posted by Alain:
With QT you are changing the vibration of the energy and it is transformed if you will. We don't "take it out" but as I said transform it.

I've never given any thought to this before - That's a very useful distinction - thanks!

Alain, very nicely put, I'll agree!

Really glad to see this discussion thread going on. Thanks Kevin K.!

I started learning QT since Sep 07, and recently learned Pranic healing from Basic to Advanced levels just this month.

I don't really like the idea of 'throwing' dirty energy, and not touching the physical body, but I do appreciate the amount of research MCKS has done to give detailed information on the chakras (he reveals 11 of them) and 'customized' pranic healing treatments for certain common illnesses (eg. fever, eczema, the different types of cancer etc.) The advanced pranic psychotherapy is definitely a useful skill to learn for me.

Basic QT, on the other hand, allows us to give a light touch on the client's body. This sort of gives the client the reassurance that we're here to help, and we're not afraid of 'catching' anything. The sense of connectedness is there, even if the client is not aware of what we're doing.

but right now, I'm a fan of Core transformation I techniques! Kudos to Alain.

Yep, what Alain said. Also, as we continue to buy into a good/bad polarity type of thinking we continue to feed into separation & judgment rather than unity. Might all things simply be shades of light?

Alfred reminded me of one of my reminders: Who am I to think I know what is best for you? I can only know what is best for me, as you can only know what is best for you.

I love not having to decide what is "not ok" in someones system!

Why, oh why, must we stay "stagnant" in this perception of good/bad, clean/dirty, fit/unfit - especially when it's someone else's???

Just LOVE them anyway, as they are, in ALL of who they are! THIS is why I LOVE QT!

Right on, Ashley!!!