Discuss!

It appears emotrance is somet like QT crossed wit EFT.. I persnally av no clue - and that's after looking at the website for it!
http://emotrance.com/

anyone out there who knows about it?
How does it compare - what's more 'powerful' and useful?
My limited exposure to QTis a very positive one..

;-)

Both Emotrance and QT are powerful and useful in their own way.
The only hands on healing I've done here in two years was for a senior nurse with an extreamly bad headache.Junior nurse heard me talking about QT so she came to ask me to help.
After 15 mins. no effect from QT, so I switched to Emotrance nd asked her to soften it and create a path for the bad energy to flow out She struggled to do this, I asked "Did you move it?" "YES!" but she still looked crook.
"How far?
"Oh about half an inch!"
OMG! I went back to QT and in less than a minute it blew out, much to her relief and to the junior's pop-eyed amazement!
Can you believe that I got thrown off Emotrance for saying, "All is Energy!" because they say "It's ONLY energy!" and theres NO ONLY about it!!
Huggie

Hi Al,
Emotrance is more an emotional healing method that can impact physical conditions rooted in emotions like tension or pain. It is a self-help method that can be professionally facilitated, while QT is an energy healing modality that involves transmission of life force resonance usually from one person to another. QT is generally based in physical healing, but has wonderful impact on balancing emotions also. Unlike EmoTrance, QT is administered on the behalf of the client.

Hope that clears up some of the differences.

Blessings,
Alfred

Cheers Alf and Huggie!

That gets me a better picture now!

So let me ask a diff Q now - would you suggest leaninr EFT or Emotrance?


Best,

Al

Well, both methods have their diehard fans, so I think its a matter of horses for courses.

I personally prefer Be Set Free Fast and Tapas Acupressure Technique (TAT) over most all others at this point because I can work with clients very easily via phone and email (with energy cone therapy a great one for in-person work at the level I've learned it), but I've had a good amount of training and study of both these two methods compared with my limited learning of EmoTrance (I also prefer both over EFT, though some others prefer EFT).

Consequently, I can't go very far into why or why not one over the other. You can learn EFT for free over the internet by downloading an ebook called the EFT Cookbook from www.emofree.com . I like this about EFT. You can do the same with Tapas Acupressure Technique (TAT), ZPoint Process -- somewhat similar to BSFF -- and the Dynamind Technique -- which is a modern huna technique somewhat similar to EFT.

You may prefer one or more of these over others, but there is no set "this is superior to that, and here's why." You just may find for yourself that you are more at home with and/or get better results with one or more in comparison with one or more of the others.

If you ask me, best to go with the freebies first, and then lay out the moolah if you are still intrigued by one you can't get for free.

EmoTrance and EFT are both great methods (Sylvia Hartmann, creator of EmoTrance, is author of the bestselling book on EFT, and is an EFT Master Trainer), but these other methods are great too. Just find one you like and run with it! Or take your time if you want to just keep learning, and learn them all over time if that sounds exciting. I'd just recommend you not "flit" from one to the next once you find one that works for you: delve into it and suck the marrow out of it before leaving it for another.

I'm a lifelong student of this stuff, and it's taken me a good amount of training and practice to really master BSFF for my professional and personal use. Same for TAT (I kind of did them side by side, using one for some things, the other for others, then mostly using one for everything for several months, and then the other, etc). I resonated with these two more than EFT or EmoTrance, so I set those aside to explore in more depth later when/if I get the desire and opportunity.

This is much more longwinded than I intended, Al (sorry!), but that's what I wanted to get across about comparing energy psychology methods. Hope it helps and that you'll check some of these sites and sample the methods that are gratis: they are all good!

Blessings,
Alfred

awesoem post Alf thanks!!!

Altho it's given me even more choices/confusion :P

Tellme - where in the UK are you? If you're close i'd like to meet up and download you brain!

I'm an NLPer first and foremost, so the QT and potentially eft/emo/tapas is an additional augmentation to these skillsets (altho I'm still fairly green at QT).

Met a pal last night NLP & TFTer who told me she had met 3 people who got screwed up on EFT - which she put down to the affirmations -(I agree there's a fair bit of scope for mind reading and presumptions there if the therapist tels client to say 'X' - I mean how'd we know that saying X' is ecological?) . . soooo that as well as another TFTer I met who had ben personally screwed up on EFT and needed some deep work to set her straight leads me to be cautious of EFT... What's your take dude?

Sorry, i've gone off topic . . but research is research!

Rock on buddy

Al

Hi again Al,
Keeping in mind I'm not a big EFTer (I do have all the CD trainings (not gone through them all yet), read more than one book, and attended an advanced training by Gary), and have a stronger affinity for BSFF and TAT, here's my gauge on it:

I've never personnally heard of anyone being detrimentally affected by real EFT work (annoyed and bruised from being tapped too hard, yes; getting no benefits, yes; subjected to unskilled treatment, yes, but in all cases, the credentials of the person facilitating were questionable, and they apparently "improvised" rather than following the protocols closely), but I have heard and read quite a bit of defensiveness toward EFT from TFTers.

If you know the history, Gary Craig was an advanced level TFTer and decided to develop an "overhaul"-type protocol he named the "basic recipe", so no particular skill was needed to choose which meridians points to tap on. He named this protocol EFT and began to promote and teach it as a self-help technique outside Roger Callahan's comparitively restrictive, proprietary, and COSTLY training and certification (you had to be an MD, PsyD, or PhD psych, or MA psych nurse to undergo the Callahan's $10,000 1 or 2-day training, and this was in the 80s).

To add insult to injury, EFT has mushroomed and dwarfed its predecessor TFT in terms of number of practitioners and popularity. Callahan brought a law-suit against Craig, who in turn published free instructions for EFT on the internet. For these reasons, I can't help believing there is a degree of baggage and bad blood in the TFT camp regarding EFT driving at least some of the negative statements (though I'm sure not all).

The genuine problems people have had with EFT I would guess may have to do with bad or phony practitioners (some people, some already counselors, therapists, or hypnotherapists, actually do learn the self-help basic recipe for free on line, and buy a book or two about energy psychology and put up an EFT shingle: this is not sanctioned by Gary's organization or any of the EP associations, but they do get away with it)

Having said all that, with TFT training being more detailed and specificc in the treatment protocols, so the initial training may be more comprehensive.

//corrected on 1/20/08// Regarding ecology, Craig has incorporated a lot of NLP and cognitive psychology into the more advanced levels of training, and a skilled professional EFTer does the same as a skilled NLPer: interview the client for context and use the client's nonverbals and language patterns to track for hints of congruency, zero in on emotionally charged language and nonverbals and craft/alter the set-up phrases and sometimes even the tapping points accordingly. Craig does this beautifully, and emphasizes these kinds of skills in the more advanced trainings.


As far as self-help application is concerned, I've never, ever heard of anyone getting "messed up" using EFT. But, in terms of facilitated sessions, I don't think unskillful application is down to the method of EFT vs TFT: you can find bad EFT, TFT, or NLP practitioners out there, but I wouldn't put this down to the method as a whole.

Blessings,
Alfred

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Hi

I am learning to become an EmoTrance practitioner and find that EmoTrance and QT complement each other beautifully.

If you need any details on the EmoTrance still send me an email at wolmj@safbulk.co.za.

Judy Cape Town