There seems to be a lot of discussion here about whether we should or shouldn't or what Terri wants or doesn't want and what her karma is or isn't. Since we don't know what is supposed to happen, if her being in this situation is supposed to prompt us to give without talking it to death or making judgments, I personally would much rather err on the side of giving than err on the side of withholding. There are already too many people in the world who hold on to things, beliefs, etc. thus stopping the natural energy from flowing. I don't want to be one of them. Nor am I one to assume I know what another person has or hasn't chosen. I will continue sending her energy with all the people, animals, plants, and inanimate objects I send energy to. Like a smile, it can be used and appreciated or rejected. It's up to the recipient.

Many blessings,

Debbie

There are so many posts regarding this situation - and I agree with Debbie...and Christian...and Richard...and....
but I want to add my two cents...however, I don't want to qoute everyone that has posted - the one of many that have prompted me to even post is this...

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I say we do just that - "GIVE WITHOUT TALKING IT TO DEATH" the more everyone talks about it - the more that the issue stays "unresolved" in everyone's eyes and in everyones heart. For what it's worth....I am sending healing to all the hearts involved in this - just as I do for everything in the world that concerns me - I ask for God to do what is right for the situation - to make it better....I trust enough to

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I believe in the healing powers of God - and if we keep these "unresolved issues" teathered to our minds - they grow bigger and bigger - CUT THE STRINGS ALREADY! LET THEM GO...to GOD!!

My 2-cents....Thanks -
God Bless < !--color--> ALL the people in the world today!

Richard,

After seeing Teri Schiavo's past nurse explain the actions taken by her husband against her, and her struggle for life, as is shown in her actions, and in her emotional reactions to her mother, music, balloons, life in general, this thought percolates to the top of my mind: This woman IS all of those who have been unloved, been abused, starved, not been able to receive that which would help her/them make a full recovery, have a full life.



Is she not very similar to all of those who need the same loving treatment that her husband is apparently denying her?



What is to prevent you/us sending the "least apparent,best Quantum Touch practitioner" we have to her allowing this situation to come to a comfortable conclusion for Teri Schiavo? Her life or her death is no longer the issue within our ranks. Someone mentioned an "ego healing". This is not EGO, this is help, that can from this one case be brought to the worlds attention and further our basis for being, allow us to help those children still in need? If the practitioner on the spot, as it were, is willing to stand forth.



In reality, this is not meant to be a pubicity stunt, showing our Quantum Touch in its best light. It is simply making Teri comfortable with any decision she makes, as I have already stated here. She needs help, why can't we give more?



Why can't we do this, when it could have world repercussions? Why?



We can use the Quantum Touch energy to repair neural pathways,(we have examples of that in our archives), we can use the energy for repair of broken hearts, what is the difference here? Most of us are already sending with intent to heal, why can't we have a practitioner onsite? I don't want her to die, not at all, yet her life or death is the catalyst that may allow your/our dream to come to fruition!



WHY?



zeneagle

I agree. I no longer see this as a clear-cut case of Terri being unfairly starved to death. My husband recently heard a interview with a doctor who is an expert in determining vegetative states who had originally been hired by the Court to mediate between the husband and parents. He said he went into it originally wanting to find that there was some hope for Terri and could not find it. He said the smiles and apparent responses proved to be quite random. Of course experts can be wrong. But in the face of 15 years of medical experts determining over and over again that she is indeed in a vegetative state, I find it hard to override that on the basis of one doctor they've been able to dig up who disagrees, and the desperation of the poor parents.



I know personally of a similar case, though mercifully it remained a private matter. I was recently asking after a woman I had been friends with some time ago and was given the following tragic story of her end: Her son had been injured and was considered brain-dead. His wife instructed the doctors to pull the plug, but somehow, my friend was able to override the wife's wishes and the son was kept on life-support. Although there was never any change in the son's condition, the mother never gave up hope. She sold her house and moved into an apartment near her son's hospital. She was by his side all day every day. He never responded and after a couple of years of this, my friend became mentally unbalanced over the whole thing, and finally died later in a mental institution. Being a parent, I can certainly understand the difficulty of letting a child go, but sometimes that's what is called for.



It's hard to say when to let go, but I'd say at this point in Terri's case, it's certainly time to let go and let God.



I think this whole situation needs to be surrounded with love and light by as many of us as possible with the intent that Terri's spirit find its way to either release or continuance in this life.



As well-meaning as I know the suggestion is that QT take this on in a public way, I feel that if there is one thing the situation does not need, it is yet one more group looking for publicity for its cause by publicly jumping on the bandwagon of this family's tragedy.

Hi, Zen - I somehow didn't see your post before - there is no reason that love and healing can't be sent to Terri Schiavo - it's just a matter of not doing it in some "official," public way - and again, I don't think it's so clear what's for the best - except that sending love and energy into a troubling situtation is always good.

Good post.

I would like to add, that many people want to change things with their love.
Right-to-lifers feel love. Those removing the feeding tube also may be feeling love.
All I know is that we do not know what she really wants. We know what her parents and husband want. She has to live with the repurcussions. Maybe what is best is that she dies.

If you want to help by getting her feeding tube put back, concentrate on the husband. Try to change him. Or the judges.

Either way, at this point its up to God. I do not think we can help her at all.
And if we could, maybe we shouldn't.

Send energy for God to help her in the way that is best for her.

Be well.

As far as high profile healing goes, it doesn't work like that; we all believe what we are in vibrational alignment with, our minds 'prove' what we choose to believe. People are only convinced by personal experience, and not always then. Anyway, no-one is allowed near Terri, by order of the judge, for fear they may try to help her survive by giving food and water. Today some protesters were arrested for that very thing. Incredible - anyone trying to feed Terri will be accused of contempt of court by Judge Greer, who meanwhile refuses to allow anyone to see any papers and review the case. He is determined Terri must die. That matters, it's murder.

Richard, I'm surprised at the total absence of any real spirit of love or compassion, or even understanding, in your post. You seem to be annoyed at someone asking you for a direct input, and I agree it's not appropriate or even possible, given no-one is allowed access to Terri - she's virtually a prisoner. But your post makes no sense.

So you << can hardly believe how this case has been made front and center in the news when about 15 million children are ignored while they die each year from starvation or malnutrition. >> How does Terri dying from starvation relate to the plight of those in other countries?
<> What does that mean? The news is split into local, national and international sections - Terri's story doesn't displace any coverage of international problems that could be covered.
<< People seems to enjoy moralizing more than caring or taking positive action.>> Well, alot of people are taking positive action to try and save one helpless woman in the U.S. from death by starvation. People were arrested today for trying to give her a drink of water. Her case highlights the abuse of those who can't speak for themselves in a part of the U.S - supposedly a shining light of civilised living in the world. I think that's worth caring about. It doesn't mean I don't care about others, too. There aren't limits to love and compassion as I'm sure you're aware. The more we exercise them, the more we are capable of feeling and being aware. We are all connected and the mistreatment of Terri and her family at the hands of Judge Greer affects us all in some way.

<>Ah, but when someone is right there in front of us, needing our love and help urgently, brought to our attention - shouldn't we heed that opportunity and not just dismiss it in favour of just vaguely 'sending love to everyone.' We are being offered this one opportunity to join in a real and urgent appeal for justice and basic human kindness. That 'what about the starving in Africa' evasion is too easy - a real cop-out. Have you read the court papers concerning Terri's case ? Do you actually know what the issues are? They're uncomfortable and difficult to comprehend.
For instance, did you know that when Terri was originally admitted to intensive care, after being 40 minutes without oxygen to her brain, the doctors found many healed broken bones indicative of sustained physical abuse? With domestic abuse cases the family are often in the dark about the problem It�s not something that�s easy to talk about. She and her husband were having arguments at the time of her mysterious injury; what if her original injury was a result of some physical attack and her husband expected her to die (waiting 40 minutes to call the ambulance?) The reason for her collapse has never been explained and there�s been cover-ups all the way along, from losing medical notes to missing legal communications posted to her parents but never received in time for them to object to her husband being made guardian. At no point along the way has the law been adhered to and her parents have been prevented from caring for her. As soon as her husband received the award of compensation from the doctors treating her he stopped all her rehabilitation. He should have entered documents stating his plans for her care to the court and had them reviewed � Judge Greer has allowed him to do nothing and that�s unlawful Since then he's spent her money, with Judge Greer �s approval, on legal expenses to have her killed. If that's not worth a bit of coverage on the news, while there's still some hope the judgement may be overturned as illegal, I don't know what is! I'm sorry if you don't think that merits our concern and a little air-time.

Hi - one of the things that influences me in this tragic matter is that the husband has reported, and it has been documented as true, that not once, but twice, at the funeral of relatives who had died in similar conditions, Terri had stated that she would not want to live like that. Well, she's lived like that for 15 years now.

It's hard for me to believe that her husband has gone through this nightmare for 15 years for malevolent reasons since it would have been very easy to have given guardianship to the parents and washed his hands of it if he didn't care for Terri. People have suggested greed as a motive, but I doubt any of the malpractice insurance money will be left after all the legal bills. He indicated that he decided to really dig his heels in after a deposition in which his lawyer asked the parents whether, if Terri developed diabetes while in her current conditions, and had to have a limb amputated, would they do that. They said yes. If she had to have all her limbs amputated, would they do that. Yes. If in this state, and with all her limbs amputated, if she should suffer a heart attack, would they allow open heart surgery to prevent her from dying. They said yes. At that point, knowing his wife's wishes, he decided he would never give them custody of her.

The very good public radio station npr.com has a lot of links to various interviews which are very informative on the issues involved, which is where I heard this during an interview with the medical expert who'd been appointed ad litem guardian
of Terri in 2003, 13 years after she'd entered her current condition. He said he desperately wanted to find any sort of consistent responses. He was asked about the issue of the smiles, etc. He said he observed these, and tried over and over to elicit any sort of consistent responses with the smiles and various expressions, and could not. The definition of a vegetative state is that the wakefulness centers in the brain are operative, but the awareness centers are not, which is consistent with these sorts of phenomena. This doctor not only sat with her for hours and hours trying to find something that would indicate she'd been misdiagnosed, he did many interviews with the caring hospice staff who dealt with her every day for hours on end and, again, heard nothing from them which would indicate anything other than a typical vegetative state.

It has not been disputed that Terri verbally indicated twice she would not want to live in such a state.

This is not a simple matter of evil people murdering a helpless person, as I first thought when I looked at the parents' website. I understand how they feel, but I also understand how the husband feels.

I think this would be a terrible situation for QT to involve itself in in an aggressive manner. There is nothing to keep QT people who feel they can cure her from organizing group healings, and QTrs who simply want to surround the situation with love to do the same. It would not be helping anything for QT to be involved as an official organization, and the lack of official involvement as an official organization is not preventing any efforts of QTrs to help in any way they see fit.

Dear AlanHarmony,

This posting is a difficult one for me and it'll probably come out wrong, but I have to comment on your last posting. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but it sounds to me as if you think that Terri is somehow being "wronged" because SOMEONE ELSE, (Richard) is not doing something overtly and publicly to heal her.

It seems that you feel strongly about it, and also about religious matters, and so it begs the question: If you feel so strongly about this case, why aren't you personally doing what you're asking others to do?

Many people in QT and in other healing groups are sending to her, asking that the outcome be for the highest good, and then releasing it, trusting that the outcome, for reasons we cannot know, WILL be for the greatest good.

I trust the process, and have released attachment to outcome, as it is another's soul journey. Yes, it's a deeply emotional case, but she is one of many needing our love and healing efforts. Remember, we heal nobody. The healer is the person who was sick, and got well. The privilege and honor of being able to channel healing life-force energy for another is the rewarding thing!

Well not intending a lecture here, but I felt that there were some issues that IMHO I personally needed to address. Please forgive me if I caused offense to anyone, not my intent. This story in the news has just grown to unbelievable emotional heights. One way or another, I pray it will end soon. Love and Light to everyone involved with this case.

Someone pointed something out to me that hasn't been mentioned (as far as I can tell) and that I hadn't thought about:
that Terry is being asked to die in a very painful and unpleasant manner. They are not euthanizing her; they're starving her to death. I think what we should be sending QT for, no arguments about right or wrong, no questions asked, is to ease whatever suffering she is experiencing right now.

My 2 cents' worth.

J.

She has passed on it is reported this morning.. Remember that the person we send the energy on is the healer and we send that energy out with love. That is all we can do. What their body does with the energy is beyond our control.

Yes it is awesome when someone we work on gets better with what ever they came in with. I like when it happens. But when you start thinking that you "healed" them remember a phrase they talk about in Hawaii "when you see a turtle on a fence post, do you think he got there by himself"

How ever you feel how you want your life to end, not only talk with people about it, but more importantly have it written down in a living will and power of attorney.
Mahalo and Aloha

FYI - I heard on an interview recently that in such cases they do give anesthesia since they're not completely clear on what the person may be feeling. So my understanding is that at least she did have an easy passing in that regard. Of course, it's a very good idea to send energy as someone passes, not only in terms of comfort, but for their benefit spiritually as they pass on.