Hello all!

So, I've gotten used to the QT breathing and sweeping and am just trying to fine tune it so that it's more in sync and work out which breathing patterns seem best for more efficiency. I'm hoping to get to not only a live basic (I learned from the book), but also a supercharging class sometime in the not so distant future, too.

And I believe this is probably a supercharging type question... any help would be great!

I find that it feels as if the energy builds somewhat slowly in my hands for the first 15 minutes or so and then... WHAM!... there's a surge of energy within me (or, probably more accurately, "through"). While I can feel varying degrees of "need," I suppose you could say, from the person I'm working with, it's as if my whole body becomes energized or wrapped in a cocoon of energy. In other words, it doesn't seem to be just a surge to meet a need in whatever part I'm working on - doesn't subside on its own. This seems to get stronger with each session, though it still seems to take about the same amount of time to reach.

It's quite a feeling, really, and absolutely amazes me. It seems to be both a "good and bad" thing... Paradoxically, it feels as if the potential for healing goes way up, but when it's really intense, it's very difficult for me to function. I feel "absorbed" into the session (somewhat akin to the loss of "me-ness" or duality in Enlightenment paradigm spirituality, though not necessarily the same) and, in that way, not only does it seem there's more energy, but no distraction. If I ease up on the breathing and sweeping a bit, it does ease things somewhat to keep me grounded enough to be at least somewhat cognizant of what's going on in the session. But even so, after the last couple of sessions, it took a couple of minutes to "come down" to even being able to chain words together coherently or process my surroundings and longer before my head was out of the clouds so to speak.

I was wondering...

1. I recall from the book that because you don't really feel the energy strongly doesn't mean it's not there and working. Even so, am I right that this intensity is more desirable?

2. If it is more desirable, are there any tips on "getting it up to speed" quicker, so that it can be used in even short sessions?

3. (Added as a side note on edit) This last session, when the energy got this strong, my thumbs went really rigid. Though the tension didn't seem to cause a problem with energy in my hands (on the contrary, it seemed it was because of the intensity), what was going on there?!! It was as if they were involuntarily pulled in toward my hand, though staying straight, and when I'd backed off enough to be aware of this, it took effort to even spread them away from my hand.

Sorry about the length of the post! I suppose I could've asked shorter, but wanted to give enough description!

Thanks for any thoughts!


Tim

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Hello - The hand rigidity is a classic sign of hyperventilation. Without observing your breathing, it's impossible to say that is the definite answer to your question, but it sounds like hyperventilation at least to some considerable degree.

Remember that you are not healing anyone...what you are aiming for is to get and maintain a high vibration and energy flow in YOURSELF. The resonance/entrainment is the client's part in the equation.

All of the things you are describing can be signs of hyperventilating. I know this from 40 years' career in clinical anesthesia. Perhaps you're trying too hard. Try loosening up a bit, relax, slow the breathing, ALLOW the sensations to come to your hands without "grasping" for them.

When you say that when you let up on the breathing a bit, you are more aware of what's going on in the session, that is a HUGE clue that you are probably hyperventilating and/or just trying too darn hard. When you slow your breathing, it does take some minutes for CO2 levels to rise again to normal levels, so your description of that time lag is accurate.

My suggestion to you is to just stay with a 4-4 type of breathing, at normal respiratory rate of no more than 12 per minute, paying attention to the sensations in your hands, and see if anything changes for you. Keep it simple, allow it to happen, don't grasp, don't breathe fast or hard or hugely deeply. Don't worry about supercharging until you have mastered the basics....it is counter-productive in the end to try to do advanced work without having mastered the basics!

Blessings and good luck...Keep up the good work. You're off to a great start. Seeing the DVD of the Live Interactive Video Workshop will answer many of your questions, as will a live workshop with an Instructor to guide you. Let us know how it goes.

Ali...

Hmm. I hadn't thought of hyperventilation as an option, probably because I'd always thought of hyperventilation as having you feeling out of breath like you're gasping for air (y'know... the classic portrayal on TV), which isn't how it felt at all. I can see where you're coming from on other symptoms, though, so you may be right... I should look into that.

I'll try using more of a 4-4 as you suggest. I'd been using 1-4, 2-6, and 4-4 patterns with very very infrequent fire-breathing. In fact, at times, I'd realize that I wasn't taking full breaths, so wouldn't have thought it was too much intake.

As for trying too hard... not sure. Perhaps I am at times (a product of enthusiasm, perhaps... ), though... With the last session I did (a distant for family members), I actually went into it feeling less than up to it. I wanted to help, but it felt fairly half hearted at first. I went through with it since I'd read that even when you feel less than in good form or mood, sessions can still work. I also trusted that my focus and intent might pick up as I did it. During the first 10-15 minutes, I was going through the steps, but not putting a tremendous amount of intent in it. Even so, the surge of energy came at about 15 minutes and with it I got more into the session. Knowing that I wasn't working full-bore or trying very hard prior to the surge in that case, I'm not quite sure that it's trying too hard to force anything that brings it about.

Now, that still doesn't rule out breathing as an issue, so perhaps you're right there. I really, really don't want to seem like I'm discounting anything you're saying... just bouncing back my thoughts to you.

And, yah, I realize that I'm not the one healing anybody... only providing a potential for them to heal themselves.

At the moment, I'm not sure we can afford a basic live class in the very near term. The video workshop might be an option, though I'd prefer to hit the live class and then, afterward, pick up a supercharging. I've been thinking about linking up with someone locally, though, and that might be a good way to have someone take a look at my breathing.

Not sure if anything above changes your thoughts or if anyone else has input. If I find someone locally to sit with and get feedback from, perhaps that'd be a good way to tell!

Thanks for your time. I really appreciate it!

Tim

You should review the patterns of energy felt in the hands, which is in the book. When you don't feel anything, or much, in the hands at the outset, that is one of the patterns of energy that is recognized and very possible. Take a look at that chapter. You should thoroughly know and look for and recognize those patterns. They are CRUCIAL to know...it is the feedback that tells you what's happening in a session, or the major part of it. Memorize those patterns. Can you name those patterns right now?

Another piece of basic knowledge you need: What are the four common errors people make when doing QT sessions? Can you name them now?

If it takes 15 minutes to get sensations in the hands, recognize that there's a reason for that. I am not going to tell you the reason, or iterate that pattern to you, LOL, because I want you to study that chapter! This is your homework assignment, lololol.

Hyperventilation is the blowing-off of CO2 from your blood gases. CO2 is the chemical trigger that stimulates us to breathe. It is not lack of oxygen that is the primary stimulus for initiation of respiration, it is lack of CO2. The shortness of breath you describe sounds like hypoxia, which is the opposite of hyperventilation. Hypoxia is lack of oxygen in the blood. Hyperventilation is lack of Co2 in the blood.....biiiiggggg difference chemically & physiologically!! Gasping is hypoxia, while tingling and claw hands and what you describe is sounding very much like classic hyperventilation. Gasping is NOT part of the hyperventilation syndrome. It is the hallmark of the hypoxic picture. In hyperventilation taken to the extreme, when CO2 drops very low, the person faints and respirations STOP. It's scary to see because for a time the person is on the floor not breathing. As soon as CO2 levels rise enough in the blood, respiration is stimulated...the person starts to take breaths and they wake up. There is usually some twitching associated with this so it's easy to confuse acute hyperventilation syndrome with a seizure disorder. Fascinating stuff.

The Interactive Video class is good way to start--I did that. You can sponsor or host workshops for others and very soon you'll recover the cost of the DVDs, so it is really an excellent opportunity. And you have the DVDs to see again and again, which I have found extremely useful, even though I've now taken all the other courses and teach. The basic DVD is still valuable to me, very much so.

Again: LEARN & MASTER BASIC SKILLS before leaping into advanced stuff. People are so eager to do fancy stuff and it is a mistake to do that until you set the foundation of basic skills, like breathing & sweeping! I don't think you have breathing & sweeping just right yet. You can do WONDERS with basic work, and will be ready to do advanced work quickly if you master the groundwork first. Supercharging will make more sense to you and will be learned better and more easily if you have got the basic grokked in well.

Have fun on the journey!

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Ahhh... so, the common TV portrayal of "Oh my God! He/she's hyperventilating!" while they're gasping for air is way off base and probably spreads a popular misconception, huh?

Okay, I'll definitely go back over the book. I remember much of it, but should probably go back through and solidify. If I follow that up with meeting up with someone who wouldn't mind watching and commenting, that should help.

So, with the interactive videos, you can recover the costs by sponsoring workshops? Cool deal! I should look into how that works. That might switch that to the best option for me right now!

Again, thanks! If this is hyperventilation, part of me feels really sheepish, honestly. Not because I feel I made a mistake, really... eh, well... it's hard to explain and doesn't really have much to do with healing, so I'll spare you. *lol*

Almost all beginners hyperventilate to some extent, so don't feel stupid! When attention is focused on breathing, you tend to exaggerate it. People do get over it pretty quickly and so will you.

Don't believe everything you see on TV, ha ha.

Don't believe everything you see on TV?!! But, I thought it was an encyclopedia of wonderful factual knowledge!

And, nah, the hyperventilation isn't what made me feel sheepish. When you're learning, sometimes it takes a bit to feel things out, y'know. It's easy for me to grasp concepts and I've picked up different things from alternative medicine over the past several years, but the application of hands-on doing is different from concept and requires practice!

Between posts (I actually leave the account up, but only check in every now and then), I was actually wondering about blood content and chi... kindof a "well, chi follows blood, blood moves with chi" thing and how that would apply to hyperventilation. In other words, does it feel like a rush of energy because a rush of energy comes with the altered circulatory state during hyperventilation? But, the problem with the question is that oxygen is a vasoconstrictor since your circulatory system constricts to moderate oxygen distribution when your blood is too oxygen rich. So, if it feels like an energy surge, it doesn't have anything to do with the blood flow - chi flow ties.

Just kinda intellectualizing, I suppose.


Tim