First of all I'm very happy to see this new discussion topic and surprised at the same time because I was meaning to make this post for the past couple of days. So I guess now is the time to do it.

Weight Loss is a huge issue, like back pain, but even greater because it spans all ages. We all know this can be considered an epidemic in the USA with so much obesity present when you go to any public area. The current figures show that at least 30% of the population is overweight or obese.

There's obviously hundreds of reasons why one may be overweight. Some have physical issues such as an underactive thyroid gland. Some are overweight because of more emotional issues and they find food as an outlet for their frustrations and so they overeat or become addicted to food, not dissimilar to other addictions. And then of course there's just the fact that many people are completely sedentary since we have cars to take us everywhere, so exercise isn't incorporated in the daily routine. In other words, there's usually numerous aspects to ones weight issue.

The challenge I've had with approaching weight loss through the use is QT is that I don't know where to start, especially because I'm very methodical. When we use QT for physical pain, we generally have a real-time lowering of the pain from a single session and we just place hands (or minds) on the area in pain. But with weight-loss, we would have to wait weeks to see solid progress and realize whether we have helped.

How do I tackle weight loss issues with QT if somebody doesn't exercise, eats way too much because of underlying emotional issues, and quite possibly has some hormone regulation problem?

There are so many issues that need to be addressed and seeing results takes weeks. After any QT session people feel fantastic to say the least but how can we ensure that this fantastic feeling may drive someone to head to the gym for the rest of the year? How can we provide profound motivation? And where would we apply the QT?

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Hi Anto,
When I spoke with Richard about this forum, I meant it for us, the practitioners and instructors, those who use Quantum Touch on a more or less regular basis. I hadn't thought beyond that to clients. This is something new that I have not heard or seen discussed in Quantum Touch before, so it is somewhat of a new territory. I have found that utilization of QT helps normalize the practitioners body and automatically (perhaps via the energy flow) leads to weight loss. For clients who desire to lose weight, teaching them to use QT and encouraging them to use it for others, should lead to their own weight loss. For clients who aren't interested in learning QT, is there a way that we as practitioners can utilize QT to help them lose weight? Now that is an interesting question and another good reason for this forum.
How about letting us know if you have tried to use Quantum Touch on weight problems regarding your clients? This could lead to some very interesting ideas and discussions: What are your thoughts on the subject? Write them down, send them in to the Forum.

Anto,I think you have a very good point. I can't address it, as it is beyond my perlue.I thouth about it, and this is the result

I think that each and every one of us, as we continue to lose weight as we work, can use the ideas that we come up with for our clients.

Since this particular forum can be somewhat akin to an emotional time bomb, I would tackle the issue very carefully, having given it quite thorough thought from as many angles as are available from the client.
Most who are obese or simply plump or five pounds overweight have sub concious reasons, blaming others for their condition. You nailed that one.
I think that if we are going to apply this newly gained knowledge to our clients, it must be done with sympathy, sincere care and a willingness to teach the overweight person to use Quantum Touch for others. Personally, I believe that there are reasons, whether emotional, subconcious, circumstancial or genetics that are involved that need be included or considered by us beyond teaching the overweight person to learn QT to help others. The energy used will help take the weight off.

If we decide to offer this to our clients too, I truly believe we must accept whatever they say as to the reason of the overweight, and go from there. I also believe that there is no reason in the world to treat an overweight person as anything but a person who is overweight.

We have NO RIGHT to treat the person as more or less than a person who is overweight. NONE.

Now to bring it down to my own thoughts on myself. I am overweight, I have been made the butt of many jokes, I have lost the weight, regained it, been a weight lifter when Golds gym in Los Angeles was still a grimy place with multitudes of free weights. I gained respect from some of the lifters there only by damn near killing myself because at the time I hadn't the knowledge to lift. When they finally realized I was gonna or die, they did realize what was wrong and began to help me.

There are as many reasons for overweight as there are people who are zaftig. The reasons may make no sense to any of us for any reason, but they do to the person who is seeking release from the pain of plain old fat.

We can not do it for them.

We can do it for us, just by healing on a steady basis, every day, using the 1-6 breathe, vortexing and retaining an idea in the mind of what we want to acheive.

Combine that with a willingness to walk ONE block, daily, and it is almost automatic.

Quantum Touch treats the craving for sugar as a low addiction, which oddly enough, is muted, then simply peels away. The energy that is passed through the body of a healthy person, a non-plump person, is so much stronger, steadier than any other form of energy that I think that the idea of losing the weight to help another is a good one, in this case only.

if one loses the weight for another, it will return when it can. When one loses the weight to free ones own abilities, it stays gone.

I hope that some of this makes good sense.

cya all Tuesday at noon. Love yas.
z

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The challenge I've had with approaching weight loss through the use is QT is that I don't know where to start, especially because I'm very methodical.

Unbalanced weight (gain or loss) issues are often emotional in nature. Supercharging has a technique designed to deal with this. Practitioners who have studied Supercharging and have weight problems should make good use of this tool.

For the folks who have not studied Supercharging or the DVDs, I'd be happy to run this technique on chat room participants any time I'm in the room during our weight optimization sessions.

Eat healthful foods in appropriate amounts. Use your body just enough so that you don't lose your body. Sleep enough. And most of all, love yourself.

Hi Trane,
I will take you up on that offer every chance I get for those who are still confused. I have loaned my own DVD's to another and cant goback and check what you are saying. I am just gonna trust you, as usual.
thanks for speaking out.\
Be prepared to speak out more.
zen

Ok, It's noon MT time and I'm ready to begin my weight loss program using QT. It has been on my mind since I took my first class. I'm glad I'm not the only one to think of it.

As the president of a nutritional company I have access to an amazing nutritionist/bio-chemist. We've started and scrapped several weight loss formulas in the past because we refuse to use anything that isn't proven safe or forces the adrenal glands to kick in from artificial stimulation. The formula(s) would have to address ALL the underlying causes of weight gain. We have come to the conclusion that it would have to be more than just a formula with pills or a drink to swallow.

I think QT is the answer to the emotional piece of the puzzle. We can address hormones, we can address metabolism, we can address thermogenesis, we can address calorie count, and we can address the exercise, (or lack of), I think QT will allow us to address the one thing we'd been struggleing with which is the emotional attachment to food.

This forum also addresses the issue of support. It's hard to do alone. This way we can all do it together and support each other.

I would like to take 50 lbs of fat off my frame, and strengthen and tone my muscles and skin.

With QT, there are actually 3 things that are helpful. First, is the weight normalization technique taught in SuperCharging. Second, is the emotional healing technique also taught in SuperCharging. Third,(actually first because it's taught in Basic) is plain ole physical healing. Hormone imbalance is a result of physical anomolies in the body. I've got underactive thyroid. Low thyroid causes a multitude of things which lead to weight gain, hormone imbalance, low metabolism, lethargy, deppression, etc. I'm working on healing my endocrine system, including my thyroid.

The endocrine system is a big part of the puzzle.

My nutritionist has taught me that the two most important elements in maintaining balance for the endocrine system are Manganese and Iodine. We use patented amino acid chelated minerals since this is the only form the body can actually access and use. If you give it another form, it will have to convert it into an amino acid chelate. The body is unfortunately not a very efficient chelator, so supplementation of minerals is usually necessary. Since the minerlas are responsible for the enzymatic reactions taking place, if the minerals are not present, the other elements cannot do their job effectively.

Drinking lots of water of also key. I've been told to "drink til I float". I find that when I do get enough water, I feel better all the way around. I drink pure, filtered (I filter it myself), artesian water from natural springs throughout the state of Utah. Its free and its the best water I've ever tasted. It is not recommended to drink distilled water. It is dead and devoid of minerals.

I wish everyone the success they desire!

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Originally posted by Antranik:
How do I tackle weight loss issues with QT if somebody doesn't exercise, eats way too much because of underlying emotional issues, and quite possibly has some hormone regulation problem?

The main thing which Q-T is excellent in focusing on is the underlying stress. Sometimes there can have been a traumatic experience or experiences that unconsciously drives the eating. And/or sometimes it's negative thoughts ("exercise is boring"). And/or sometimes it's secondary gain ("if I'm fat I won't have to deal with the opposite sex"). And/or sometimes it's a physiological pattern that's been set in motion by dieting.

Donna Eden has a very simple acupressure routine which sedates the triple warmer meridian (which has a lot to do with the attack & defend aspect of the immune system) and strengthens the spleen meridian (the "Great Mother" aspect of the immune system) which is fantastic for emotional and physical stress. It's too long to explain here, but I have an article I wrote on it which you can see by clicking here. Donna Eden feels this is great for weight loss (in that it takes away the underlying stress which is driving the emotional overeating). So far, I've just used this acupressure pattern for rheumatoid arthritis, which it worked for fanstastically. It's a little awkward to do on oneself, but I'm going to start using it on myself once a week.

On Donna Eden's website, www.innersource.net, she has a Q&A section with many topics addressed. One article is titled something like, "Sedating Triple Warmer Is Not for Sissies," and mentions that after a while, a lot of buried stuff may begin coming to the surface. That might be a good time to use the SC techniques Trane mentions.

Also, I would highly recommend you refer them to Martha Beck's book "Four-Day Win," which I mentioned in another thread, which gives very good self-help advice on healing the relationship between your mind & your body.

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HI Everyone that I stood up. I am so terribly sorry that I couldn't make it in. Honker went into seizures around 6AMish, and I shoveled my way to the vet. God that is so scary.

I won't know until tomorrow if this is part of an illness or a permanent disability.

I AM SO SORRY.

Please, forgive me?

I just got back from the vet, Honks has a fever, I need a brain. Anyone spare a cell or so?

Lynn, Honkers Mama and partner.
AGAIN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW SORRY I AM.

Zen--sending to you and Honker!!!!

Hi, Zen - Me, too!

Actually, I was intending to be at the chat, but have been thinking it's Monday all day long - see everyone next week...

Hi,
I just wanted to let you know that I lost weight unintentionally after I went on a Reiki course and then did healing on myself for the next 21 days, as recommended by the Reiki teachers. I combined this with the supercharging quantum touch techniques which seem to amplify everything. I was 7st 9lbs to start and now am 7st 5lbs.
IF you are wondering about the Reiki self treatment positions there are 12 (probably a lot more)and you place your hands in each position for 3-5 minutes (4 on head, 4 on front of body, 4 on back of body).
Maybe my body has detoxed itself or maybe it has balanced itself out. Another side effect was that my desire for wine reduced! (slightly).

WAY TO GO CHEEKYMAXX, KEEP IT UP

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INPUT FOR THE SKIN? I HAVE LOST 60 LB AND MY SKIN IS BEGINNING TO HANG ESPECIALLY ON MY ARMS. WHAT CAN I DO AND I KNOW OTHERS HAVE THIS PROBLEM ALSO. ANY INPUT IS GREATFULY APPRICATED.

HAVE A GOOD ONE.
RITA

skin? are you strength training? You can do calisthenics, you don't need to pick up weights. Body weight exercises. Two sites i love are www.bodyfatguide,com and www.shapefit.com for exercises. On body fat guide there is an article about loose skin that will explain everything to you. remember your whole body is regenerated every 7 years so you can lose the stretch marks and loose skin!

HI,YUNA,

THANKS FOR THE INFO HAVE NOT GET TO LOOK AT THE TWO SIGHTS YET BUT WILL BEFORE LONG.

I NEVER DID GET STRETCH MARKS. GUESS I WAS LUCKY THERE

LIVING IN THE LIGHT AND LOVING IT
RITA