Hello everybody.
I'm a a scientist and I would like to investigate about the world of QT.

A friend of mine has idopatic scoliosis. It is quite strong: 60 degrees.
Do you know any case of healing?

It would be intersting to study it.
Needless to say that this man would give 100,000$ to anyone who can heal him. Becuase medicine cannot.

I'm very curious. Thank you.

Hi Scientist,
Welcome -

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Needless to say that this man would give 100,000$ to anyone who can heal him. Becuase medicine cannot.

If you broke your arm and went to the doctor, the doctor might x-ray your arm, give you meds for the pain, maybe imobilize it - put it in a cast or a sling.
The doctor doesn't heal you or your arm. Your bones MEND THEMSELVES. You heal yourself. What (s)he is doing is creating an envirnment where your arm can heal faster. (Not unlike QT)

Well first I want to make sure you and your friend understand this. It's important.

Second, if you are a sceintist, what are your credentials and HOW do you propose to investigate/study Quantum-Touch?

And third, what do you plan to do with the information?
Christina
P.S.

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Do you know any case of healing?

If you investigate this web site you will read stories AND see pictures of of this.
Where are you located (generally speaking)?

"Idiopathic" just means "cause unknown." Scoliosis of unknown cause would cover a very large percentage of scoliosis cases. There is extensive discussion of scoliosis here on the message board, so if you use the search function you will have a lot to read. Also on the QT website it is mentioned with pictures and in the book.

Bottom line is that Quantum Touch work has been very effective for scoliosis for many people. Also realize that the real healer is always the person who is ill, and never the practitioner. We do not diagnose nor treat...we offer a high vibration for a client and the work is based on principles of resonance and entrainment, which can trigger self-healing.

I am curious: Would your name happen to be Eileen?

I hope this helps. Welcome to QT. The best place to begin your study of QT is to get and read Richard Gordon's book, "Quantum Touch -- The Power To Heal" and take it from there. Blessings to your friend.

((((((((((((((((Scientist's Friend)))))))))))))))))))))))

Hello! Thank you for your answers.
I'm a scientist: physicist.

I'd like to investigate this world to see if there is a scientific process that brings to healing.

I tell you the truth. I don't believe in masters or people who have strange powers. But I agree with you when you say that the human body has the power of self-healing or regeneration.

For example the child body has the power to transform a little body in an adult one.

But how can you control this power? Maybe the "healer" can give you energy to your cells. Energy transfer that can help you. Who knows...

Surely we are all made of energy. But, in the case of my friend with scoliosis, how can he use his body/cells energy and address it to his bone/legaments structure to restore his deformed spine?

It is an interesting field to analize

Just to have an idea... do you simply think that if I put my hands on his spine he would be healed?
Energy transfer with auto-address?

Thank you

Scientist, I searched this board for scoliosis. Lots of good information.

http://quantumtouch.groupee.net/eve/forums?a=search&req...rum_scope=6901071811

Jen
www.LiveByTheGulf.com
Gulf of Mexico

Hi again,
It's not an energy "transfer".
I agree with Ali:

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The best place to begin your study of QT is to get and read Richard Gordon's book, "Quantum Touch -- The Power To Heal" and take it from there.

Many of your questions will be answered there. And hey, why should we reinvent the wheel? Richard does a great job in the book and if you're serious, go ahead and read it.
Christina

Scientist...

Just a thought - and this isn't really QT-specific, especially since there are many on this board that know so much more about QT than I do...

Science and logic look at hard, measurable facts and while there are certainly some aspects of healing that can be measured (for example, improvements in range of motion), it occurs to me that there are also aspects of energy work and healing that move into a somewhat different category than the measurable. For example, faith and love add a great amount of potential to healing, yet are difficult to measure (though you can observe progress). Invoking God through prayer is said to give healing a boost and many have experienced this.

Science looks for duplicatable cause-effect based results that present themselves in exactly the same way repetitively, however, from a different perspective, the principle of cause-effect is not 100% accurate... all is really based on creating potential and probability. In the case of QT, this would be applied as: the introduction of a higher vibrational level of energy potentiates (not causes) the raising of the client/healer's body's own vibrational level. This, in turn, brings about the potential (through the means the higher vibration provides) of healing and, in many cases, this is what happens.

A duplicatable sequence of events may also not happen in every case. Healing is left up to the intelligence of the body, which may see a different order of priorities and processes than expected, delaying the application of the healing process to the intended "target" in favor of healing other parts we may not have realized were ailing. In these cases, a hard-core scientist may be discouraged where an experienced practitioner may remain open and trust the process.

So, my 2 cents... (and the gist of the above) approach it with open mind and see it as creating potential which, when the proper conditions are present, often becomes actual. If you don't see the same exact thing every time, instead of tossing it out, consider that there may have been a factor you may not have been aware of.

When we talk about the "miraculous," we're often talking about that which stretches or reaches beyond the sphere of mainstream, accepted science. The concept that a person may heal with touch seems miraculous for that reason, but it seems to me that there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that it does happen!

Just a few thoughts for you!

** Those more experienced than I: Correct anything you see I've said that may be in error!!! **


Tim

Hello Tim,

thank you for your nice post.

I agree with you about the limits of science.
But right now I don't want to enter in a religious field.
I don't even know what religion is behind QT.
MAybe it is a sort of New Age?

I just wanted to try to see if there is something
that can be understood with logic and physics.

An idiopatic scoliosis correction would be a strong
sign of a new field to explore, because medicine
cannot do it.

And above all would make ill people happy!

As a scientist I should be a sceptical, but a teacher of mine
one day wasn't able to rise from his bed. His neck was blocked.
They brought him to hospital but they weren't able to help him.
Just an agopunturist healed him! And now he's very well.

So, something beyond today medicine exists...

Briefly, there's no religion behind Quantum-Touch. It works no matter one's religion, spirituality, or absence thereof. Regarding the science of energy medicine, I'll suggest two books, "Energy Medicine, The Scientific Basis" by James L. Oschman and "Spiritual Healing, Scientific Validation of a Healing Revolution" by Daniel J. Benor, M.D. I agree, there is something beyond today's medicine. We surely don't know everything yet. I do know that when I put my hands on someone, phyically or in my mind, healing results. Happy searching.

PS: I've experienced success with scoliosis for a client as well.

Another book to get and treasure: "The Field" by Lynn McTaggart. Enjoy.

Oh, one more: "The Energy Healing Experiments" by Gary E. Schwartz, Ph.D.

Both of these wonderful researchers are associated with IONS, the Institute of Noetic Sciences, and are highly regarded in both the world of science and the world of healing. It's the same "world," of course, and the two poles grow closer every day.

There is no religion associated with Quantum Touch, and it does not depend on any particular belief or faith to work. There is no energy transfer per se. If you really want to get a handle on this work, take a Basic Workshop. Try it. See it. Do it. All the talk and questioning in the world won't fully answer your questions. You have to do it yourself, then you'll understand. Without the experiential work, you will only be saying words and still wondering. Set aside $300 for a live class and just DO IT. Or buy the Interactive Video. The message board is not the place to learn QT...For that, you need some combination of a class, the basic textbook, and hands-on practice. The message board is great for clarification and discussion, and well....messages, but it is not a primary teaching tool. There are Certiffied Instructors who do the teaching, who have all worked very hard for their credentials.

Could you teach someone physics on a message board? Probably not.

You have said several times that you are interested in investigating Quantum Touch. Enjoy the journey! The tools you will need are a book, a class either live on on video and an Instructor. The questions you ask are not easily answered by a one-sentence quickie reply. You are now in possession of a list of tools and methods to learn QT, including an ancillary reading list which is heavily rooted in science. The roadmap for learning is in the paragraph above, and I wish you a fun and enlightening journey!

I have had MDs in my classes, who have been blown away by results. You should see the AHA! looks on their faces, the incredulity. I should pay THEM, just to see it, ha ha ha.

Cris is right on: We don't know everything yet. But healing happens!



Blessings to you.

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Hi,
I've been trying to run energy through my daughter to heal her 43 degree scoliosis and we both did the basic workshop where we had other students run energy together with no visible jimprovement. However, last Saturday we went to see some practitioners who I read had a lot of success with scoliosis. They worked on my daughter for 1 1/2 hours and had limited success, however they worked on me for the last 5 minutes and the 39 degree curved spine I had for 31 years is completely straight! Needless to say, we will be going back with my daughter.

Hello everybody.

Jeannette, I'm happy for your results but... are you sure your spine is corrected? It means that you are now 1,5 inches taller.
A 39 degrees correction is a big change in a body.

The limited success on your daughter can be due just for the fact that she was laying down for 1,5 hour and so the back muscles relaxed and the spine got a little better?

In Medicine should have been easier to correct a child spine than an adult one. What did the QT practitioner say?

Please keep us updated, thank you.

Scientist, ANY improvement in an hour and a half is a miracle. You want a complete cure in 2 minutes? Or five minutes? It happens!

Here, the testimony is that both individuals were improved in one session....yet you are looking for any other explanation for the improvement, rather than the energy work that was done. Any conversation or comments by the QT Practitioner and a client are privileged and confidential, as in any professional relationship, by the way.

It would be an error to assume that the client was lying down for an hour and a half. Much or most work on the back is done with the client standing or sitting.

Please, do your homework and learn before you judge. DO what you said you wanted to do before you make judgements, and investigate. (Your word) Healthy skepticism is fine, but if you say you want to investigate, then do so and reserve your judgements until then. Scientists posit a question, investigate, and then reach conclusions based upon the facts discovered during the course of the study. Your technique seems to be the opposite. In what manner will you investigate?

Please, tell us the guidelines of your study! Double-blind??? Which laboratory, XRay facility or physician will you use for documentation of precise measurements? We are more than a little interested. Will you be writing a grant proposal?

I understand your eagerness to know more about QT. It's fascinating stuff for sure. Good luck on investigation. Let us know how we can help. Please keep us updated on your investigation, and thanks.

Jeanette, what wonderful news! I am so happy for the improvements in your daughter and you! You are wonderful healers. Don't be put off by comments such as the ones above...go for it and many blessings to you both.

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Please, do your homework and learn before you attack. DO what you said you wanted to do before you make judgements, and investigate. (Your word)

When you have information garnered by your own hand, we will accept you and answer your questions to the best of our ability. Until then, fish or cut bait.

Oh, and please, improve your spelling.
zeneagle

Hello Scientist,
I had both scoliosis and kyphosis and many times was in severe pain. I was seen by orthopedic specialists and told that;
prbably I may get worse in time
I can't do heavy work
To do physiotherapy
take painkillers and rest when in pain.
While the physio did help a lot, actual improvement came after learning Tai Chi(and practicing consistently)
I can't say that my back is perfect but there was a marked improvement confirmed by x-rays.
I can do strenuous activities like anybody else.
That was before I came across QT
If you want a scientific approach on bio-energy and what goes about at a cellular level go to;
www.speedhealing.com