Hello, I think find the stillness inside the navel first, then activate HS inside the stillness. It is better to do in this sequence. Breathing is of course good! But then focus beyond breathing is what I was suggested to do and this is deeper. HS will come soon!

Sorry I also meant to say, talk to support people too. My experience is good for me but support people know so much more! They are very excellent.

Hi all,

I am posting this message, because someone asked me via PM, if Hieu Doan is the real deal. Just thought, that perhaps the answer might be of use to others, too.

If you have already been meditating for some time, you may experience results quicker.
If you (like me in the beginning) have trouble meditating for 10 or 20 minutes, and think this is quite some time, than it may take longer.

Please have a look here for some nice jaw dropping experiences:
http://www.xtrememind.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2116

The original poster Underwater had already been meditating for 18 years. So, he had results on the first listening to the audio CD's.

I only started feeling something after several months of trying. Although progress is undeniable, I am still not there.
Recently, I had 2 OBE's and I saw a flash of light in mid air with eyes wide open. I sometimes feel heart and throat chakra during the meditation.

Point is, that you really need to be patient and persistant. These are characteristics that will grow along the process. Now, I can meditate for several hours and I am no longer checking the clock to see if I can finish :-)

I have found, that if there are any limiting emotions or feelings, then these will have to be overcome (doubts if you are meditating the right way; unbelief that you are making progress; why are you not getting anywhere, whilst others have so wonderful experiences; impatience; you will find days that you are close to giving up, but even then you'll have to meditate; anger, tiredness, unhappiness, ... are not an excuse not to meditate; there are days, where you seem to have lost all progress; and so on).

Trust the process, meditate every day for as long as you can and results will come all by itself.

You can't force results or progress. Trying to do so, will only slow you down. Besides, your Higher Self knows better how you should evolve, than your rational intellect.

There are several reasons, why you want to buy the original cd's and not second hand from someone else (even if it is at a lower price), let alone use an illegal copy.
I have found it crucial to make use of the e-mail support. Thanks to their support, I managed to stay motivated and continue the meditation. The cd's are created especially for the buyer, with some sort of energy attached to it. By buying the cd's, you are acknowledging yourself that you are truely motivated.
There is a 1 year money back guarantee.

In short: It might take a long time before you get what you want (6m - 1y?). All this time, you need to practice every single day. It really takes commitment and trust that you will succeed in the end. These would be the two main factors that cause people to fail...

Hope this helps,
Michel

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Hello! Long time lurker, first time poster here.

Thank you for posting this Qwerty. I thought I'd give it this system a try as I've always wanted to master meditation and well, "meditation mastery" kind of spoke to me lol.

I've only been using this for a three weeks so I don't want to say too much yet. So far I've noticed a strong increase in my feelings of love, compassion, peace and my energy and aura is very strong for lack of a better word. My healing ability is also smoother somehow. I'll post back later as I see more results.

How are you going with it all qwerty?

Hi rcat!

Sorry for the late reply!
Do you happen to be the 'rygarcat' from xtrememind?

I have found myself to be emotionally more stable and calmer. And.. I have had 10 OBEs since January! I only have OBEs with regular practice.
I am really glad I have stuck to it.

Michel

Hi Qwerty, yes I'm that RygarCat! There was more going on about this at the xtrememind forum so I thought I'd learn more about it there. I don't get much internet access these days as I'm living on the farm and have deliberately taken the time to do some dedicated meditation and healing practice free of distractions!

I thought some of the QT'ers might be interested though so I copied and pasted my post about my experiences from the other board here. In connection to healing this form of meditation is definitely very powerful.

My own background healing wise is QT and Matrix Energetics but for me meditation has been the missing key/foundation that I've needed.

I need to head off now, but in a week or so when I'm back at work I'll be sure to write up some of my experiences that I've had using this meditation with QT.

Here's the post of my experiences from XM:

I've been having some very interesting experiences in meditation (using MM and EW) and its crossover into life. I've had the very good opportunity of doing some intensive meditation for the last 3 weeks as I've been on vacation and my partner has been away working overseas. On top of this I live in a very remote rural area and my television burned out. What a perfect opportunity...

Several events have been happening every second day or so and at first I was putting it down to my imagination, but its happening far too frequently and tangibly to discount any further.

One is that I begin to smell a type of incense burning. It is distinctive and varies from being subtle to very strong.

Now I know for a fact that where I am there's no incense burning in my house and I also know for a fact that there are no other houses within at least 40 miles of my place. Also it only comes up when I'm meditating.

Second is I get the sense of a room filled with chanting. Its not a vision or anything, but a strong sense that I'm in a room with monks chanting. The feeling of the room changes palpably, like a higher vibration and a thickness at the same time. This second experience always comes with the smell of the incense although I have never had the second experience without the smell of the incense.

Third, for the first time several days ago I "saw" very clearly a man carrying a big staff look directly at me. He said two words which sounded like "Manah-Beh" and I came out of meditation very sharply.

Whether it was a vision, an OBE, or a dream I don't know. But very lucid it was and a very different state of consciousness I was in. Since then in the last few days I have noticed that I can "see" trails of energy moving in and out of people. It's faint, like trails of white smoke and it is almost always moving from the solar plexus, sometimes the root chakra and my ability to see it is getting stronger.

The last 4 nights I've had the same recurring dream. I'm sitting in a white cave in Antartica or something and all I know is that I'm waiting for something. Then I get the same feeling, it's basically the undeniable feeling that "she's here." Then what looks like a white panther pads into the cave looks me right in the eyes and then I merge with it and become the panther. Then I'm running through the snow as the panther, pure animal without much human sense at all. Incredibly lucid these dreams are.

Aside from this I've noticed some interesting emotional changes. My heart has been feeling open and full of love. Connecting and communicating with people is effortless. Animals are loving me too. What is also surprising is that I'm feeling a lot of raw power emanating from me, almost like nothing can hurt me, but it doesn't seem to be making me arrogant like I have had a tendency to become when drunk. I'm not looking down at people, but feeling like I'm in a position where I want to help others. I have an insight that this is a form of compassion that I have been unfamiliar with up until now. I like it very much. At once powerful and loving.

As a Quantum Touch and Matrix Energetics practitioner I've been having some far more expansive intuitions about how to allow healing to happen too. A lot of this has to do with tuning into emotions and frequencies that I now realize I was out of touch with, but the main thing has been really getting out of my own way and letting the power move through me. I do know that when I met the good doctor at the Matrix seminar he was like "what ARE you doing to be tuned into this amazing energy?" Its beautiful how all of these arts just seem to fit perfectly together.

Hi RygarCat :-)
Like I already said: I am really impressed!!
I can imagine it must be a bit startling to experience so much in a short time?

Thank you for sharing your experiences! It is really uplifting and it motivates to continue.

During one OBE, I tried QT, but I felt clumsy, because I didn't feel the sweeping.

Thank you!
Michel

I'm using the esoteric warrior activation. Its powerful to combine with QT as once I've set it up it keeps clearing and purifying. I've suffered from scoliosis and using a combination of QT and the esoteric warrior, I've managed to realign about 65% of my spine, neck and skull. I've also got a chinese medicine background and from what I see, esoteric warrior keeps the energy moving and flowing which prevents energy from stagnating in organs and emotions which I learned was a major cause of dis-ease. Thanks for the recommendation on this one qwerty - not everything that I come across on the web is effective but this has been a REAL GEM.

I practice first with meditation mastery, psychic mastery and now also with the esoteric warrior. They are all 3, profound and excellent in my view. I like that the creator does not say his way is right, but instead just teach us to actually experience spirituality, the soul and higher self directly through ourself. With discussion there is always more questions from me but when I experience then no more words can be said! This is very precious and sacred experience to me!

Well I'm impressed that you are using this to have out of body experiences Qwerty, I would imagine that there is a lot of potential there.

I not sure about using QT while OBEing, but I'd say that the rules seem different when lucid dreaming so this would probably apply also for OBEing.

To use QT with the higher self consciousness though I connect first to the HS and then use QT through this connection. Have a go, there is IMO a dramatic difference in the effect and the way the healing happens. Psychic mastery I do the same thing, I usually move into hearing and smelling, they just seem to feel most natural to me, then I do QT. It seems that having a more open/expanded spiritual consciousness helps healing be deeper too. Just my theory but its working remarkably for me. I've been doing this sort of healing on my staffy every day for a week now, she's recovering from a torn ligament and muscle and she's healing really well, much faster than the vet had expected. I told her a little about what I was doing and she just looked at me and said "well, whatever you are doing, it's working so keep it up!" I love it.

RCat, I am excited to hear that the meditation has a positive effect on your QT-practice!

RCat and Mudmage: when did you feel you were ready for Psychic Mastery? I feel drawn to it, but support recommended Esoteric Warrior.

Life really is a miracle, isn't it?

Michel

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Originally posted by Jacob:
I'm using the esoteric warrior activation. Its powerful to combine with QT as once I've set it up it keeps clearing and purifying. I've suffered from scoliosis and using a combination of QT and the esoteric warrior, I've managed to realign about 65% of my spine, neck and skull.

Jacob, that's a great result! Just curious: are you going to have new X-rays taken? These should show a straigthened spine and baffle the doctors :-)

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Thanks for the recommendation on this one qwerty - not everything that I come across on the web is effective but this has been a REAL GEM.

The honor really goes to a person named Underwater on the extrememind forum. If it had not been for him, I wouldn't have known about Hieu Doan. I am very grateful to him, too.

Michel

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Just an update:

This year I've been incorporating "the esoteric warrior" into my daily Iyengar/Shadow yoga practice which combines really well because the static postures of Iyengar/Shadow yoga let me really concentrate on letting the inner energy do its work. The immediate effects that I feel are a far deeper energetic and physical opening in all the postures. I discussed this with my yoga teacher and she believes that the inner movement combines with the Asana to move or clear the chakras, meridians and nadis in a way that the pure physical posture and breath may not be able to reach as easily. I feel very aligned physically but also mentally, emotionally and spiritually.

Apparently in the yoga style that I am in, progressing more and more to the internal levels of energy and consciousness is the goal so my teacher not only fully encourages my experiments she is in discussions to learn from the guild and incorporate these teachings into her yoga teaching.

Overall I'm very satisfied with what this system is doing for me.

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Originally posted by Jacob:
I'm using the esoteric warrior activation. Its powerful to combine with QT as once I've set it up it keeps clearing and purifying. I've suffered from scoliosis and using a combination of QT and the esoteric warrior, I've managed to realign about 65% of my spine, neck and skull. I've also got a chinese medicine background and from what I see, esoteric warrior keeps the energy moving and flowing which prevents energy from stagnating in organs and emotions which I learned was a major cause of dis-ease. Thanks for the recommendation on this one qwerty - not everything that I come across on the web is effective but this has been a REAL GEM.

Beautiful Jacob and inspiring!

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Originally posted by Qwerty:
RCat, I am excited to hear that the meditation has a positive effect on your QT-practice!

RCat and Mudmage: when did you feel you were ready for Psychic Mastery? I feel drawn to it, but support recommended Esoteric Warrior.

Life really is a miracle, isn't it?

Michel

Yep, I've love life too Qwerty, such opportunities for learning and living!

I've just followed the recommendations of support for meditation mastery first, then EW, then PM. So far everything that the teachers have guided me through have been dead on so I've got a lot of well placed trust in them.